Been using Mullvad for years, this is pretty nice. I actually get great throughput with multi-hop on.
WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
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Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, if mullvad + your machine is compromised, then indeed there is not much you can do. But first, not everyone uses mullvads client, but instead the provided configuration files for wireguard/openvpn. Secondly, not all traffic is indeed personally identifiable, especially if you're using something like mullvad with for anonymous traffic to begin with. Imagine you have another account than vinay_ys that you only use…
With a Wireguard VPN to reach Internet, all traffic from this machine meant for Internet is going via the tunnel, including the OS generated background traffic, and application generated background traffic (like update servers, analytics beacons/telemetry, license verification servers etc). These can contain tracking identifiers that can be tied back to app purchases, and even laptop purchase itself. If you really ha…
Yes, indeed, if there is identifiable traffic coming from the OS, you're screwed. This is why I said "not all traffic is indeed personally identifiable". If you are doing things where you have to be anonymous, there are plenty of OSes you can run to not have all those things giving away your identity. If you think just adding a VPN on top of the OS you use for other things, you're screwed.
I think you're missing the point here. Even if you use Tor browser or a completely new OS installation of Tails or whatever, if your payment method can be tied to you, you're once again screwed. Being able to anonymously pay, removes that vector, it's as simple as that.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#103I use (and really like!) Mullvad, but have never tried the app, preferring to use my existing OpenVPN clients with the profiles Mullvad provides. This isn't because I have any reason to mistrust their app, but just because if I've already got a perfectly serviceable client on my device, why add another binary to do the same thing? But I would be interested to hear, from folks who have used the app, what you like and…
I've found their apps to be (subjectively) higher quality than most OpenVPN clients on platforms I care about (macOS, iOS, Windows). It's nice to have a consistent UI, and not have to think or care about specific profiles — it's easy for me to jump between servers much more easily (I typically connect relatively locally, but occasionally find that certain out IP addresses have been blacklisted from specific sites; it…
I would agree with a couple additional points. The first is that the app has a nice GUI that works across all platforms I'm interested in (mainly Linux) - but it also has a very handy CLI.
I've also found that the client devs respond to issues. This is great as well as I feel as though I'm getting a complete solution with Mullvad.
While I have no doubt Mullvad is great as a vanilla VPN without their client - I feel as though I'd be missing out on a few features and convenience items if I were forced to bring my own.
And to be clear - while Multihop is new, it's not new as in today. It's been out for a while in beta (if I'm remembering right) and landed in GA about a month ago. I don't see much need for it in my use case, but it's nice they're continually enhancing the overall product.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#104I'm a happy Mullvad user. But I have one concern.
Recently, Instagram "tagged" my account as either based in Russia or using Russian currency. I'm based in Western EU and set up the VPN to connect to the same country or neighboring ones.
I'm trying to figure out if some endpoints belonging to Mullvad have been shadowbanned by Meta/Instagram. Is there someone else who uses Mullvad to surf on Meta products whose account has been impacted by sanctions directed at Russia?
My first guess is that it's a mislabelling problem or bots going rogue for an unkown reason. And, IG support is taking too long to clarify what's the culprit. So, I'm making all kind of hypotheses to reach a logical explanation before getting an official answer.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using the app for a couple of years now and I have mostly enjoyed the experience relative to the few other VPN solutions I've tried (OpenVPN, Nord (old version), ProtonVPN). Things I mostly like: - The relative simplicity of the app interface (though 'advanced' settings should just be a sub-section of 'preferences') - How quickly/easily I can get connected (download, paste in account #, click connect - or c…
The Mullvad app is huge ~100MB which is odd for what it needs to do.
That is one of the nitpicks that I missed, along with their downloads being excruciatingly slow when already connected to the service, for whatever reason (I may just be doing something wrong).
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#106I'm a happy Mullvad user. But I have one concern. Recently, Instagram "tagged" my account as either based in Russia or using Russian currency. I'm based in Western EU and set up the VPN to connect to the same country or neighboring ones. I'm trying to figure out if some endpoints belonging to Mullvad have been shadowbanned by Meta/Instagram. Is there someone else who uses Mullvad to surf on Meta products whose accoun…
I suspect that "Russian" will be the new pejorative that Big Tech is able to throw at anything they feel like banning. Want to ban a user for using a VPN because it's harder to track them? Accuse them of being "Russian linked" and bam, no further justification needed.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#107I'm a happy Mullvad user. But I have one concern. Recently, Instagram "tagged" my account as either based in Russia or using Russian currency. I'm based in Western EU and set up the VPN to connect to the same country or neighboring ones. I'm trying to figure out if some endpoints belonging to Mullvad have been shadowbanned by Meta/Instagram. Is there someone else who uses Mullvad to surf on Meta products whose accoun…
I've noticed the IPs on their relatively newer servers using "xTom" as a provider are being incorrectly identified as Russian by some IP based geolocation services... it's a bit hit or miss.
I'm guessing xTom acquired an IP block from someone in Russia a while ago and IP geolation databases are just very slow to update.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
My mullvad installation on Windows has 258MB but memory footprint is low. I find 5 entries in the task manager with a total of 14.6MB with active connection.
Maybe not Electron, then. Perhaps I'm confusing it with ExpressVPN's first-party app, which definitely was Electron when I tried them a few years back.
It does use electron. The source code is available on github.
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#109This isn't Tor-like multi-hop (but is similar to other multi-hop VPN providers out there). A proper multi-hop would happen across two different vendors in control of two different networks, as it were. The iCloud Relay paper outlined a pretty private and secure design [0] (and the intention to standardize it via IETF would probably make it simpler to self-host such a solution [1][2]). Among the VPNs, orchid.com's dis…
Shameless plug, for my undergraduate senior thesis in 2014 I coauthored a paper related to this called “A TorPath to TorCoin” [0]. The main premise was proof-of-bandwidth cryptocurrency, but its resistance to Sybil attacks was partially dependent on assignment of publicly verifiable but privately addressable circuits. So the “TorPath” part was about circuit assignment, and in retrospect perhaps more interesting than the cryptocurrency aspect of it. The tl;dr is a Neff shuffle with a matrix of relays and assignment servers.
We never developed it further beyond the initial research (it was senior spring, not a lot getting done, I even forgot to buy Bitcoin). I remained (and remain) interested in decentralized VPN networks, and played around with implementing something around it, but ultimately I didn’t have the experience to build what I wanted.
Personally, I like what Orchid, Tailscale and ZeroTier are doing. I also like Fly.io and Cloudflare Workers and generally any product that iterates toward a Network Function Virtualization (NFV) platform. The root obstacle is incumbent compute-based clouds oversubscribing compute by gouging on bandwidth. This makes the cloud environment inhospitable for any cost-effective, transit-intensive business like a CDN/VPN, increasing the barrier to entry by requiring self-hosting a distributed network.
[0] https://dedis.cs.yale.edu/dissent/papers/hotpets14-torpath.p...
Re: WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
#110I use (and really like!) Mullvad, but have never tried the app, preferring to use my existing OpenVPN clients with the profiles Mullvad provides. This isn't because I have any reason to mistrust their app, but just because if I've already got a perfectly serviceable client on my device, why add another binary to do the same thing? But I would be interested to hear, from folks who have used the app, what you like and…
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