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The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#101
post #51

Twitter is the homeless encampment of social networks. Sometimes I’ll click the wrong link and end up there. It’s uncomfortable.. lots of people screaming and spreading their excrement around.. I just avoid eye contact, keep quiet and close the tab as quickly as possible.

You seem to have a lot of biases about large swaths of people

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#103

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

It is a plainly idiotic user interface and threading model and the fact that it's lasted so long looks to me like evidence of extreme dysfunction within the company. Consider also their privacy model. Twitter is the only website I have ever been a user of that lets me see more information if I log out than I can see when I'm logged in (i.e. the tweets of anybody who has blocked me). Deep confusion is on display at ev…

> (i.e. the tweets of anybody who has blocked me)

Would you rather have them invade every bit of privacy you have to track you when you are signed out?

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#106
It's more of a cure of symptoms rather than a cause, but these uBlock Origin filters work for me. They hide the signup popup. There is also a filer list called EasyList Cookie[0], which hides the cookies popup.

  twitter.com##div#layers div[data-testid="sheetDialog"]:upward(div[role="group"][tabindex="0"])
  twitter.com##html:style(overflow: auto !important;)
0: https://github.com/easylist/easylist/tree/master/easylist_co...

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#107
post #69

Best thing I ever did was install Nitter redirect. Even though Nitter breaks every once in a while, it makes Twitter usable (assuming you don't mind read-only interaction). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nitter-redire...

For what is worth, I'd much rather just create an account than install an extension (especially since sometimes one of my many extensions ends up slowing the whole browser and I have to hunt which one is it). It's not like I don't have thousands of accounts to random sites anyway and it typically takes less time than confirming if an extension is good.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#108
Maybe it's a band-aid over a chainsaw wound, but the add-on "Tweak New Twitter" turns twitter into precisely what I expected Twitter to be. I see only actual tweets from people I follow (not uncommented retweets). No trending anything. No popups/popovers from twitter itself. It's a little quiet compared to life without it, but that's not such a bad thing.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#109
On the one hand, I’m invested enough in Twitter now that I don’t think any of these things would bother me with the benefit of hindsight.

I get enough value out of Twitter as a social space that future me would recommend just sucking it up and getting an account. I like that I can still use a fairly low-engagement-driving chronological view (even if they keep trying to kill it, only to backpedal each time). I hate the embedded browser, but as the author notes this is more of a platform-wide problem.

But here’s the thing: I never would have listened to future me about any of this had Twitter not been freely browsable when I started to give it a try. I wasn’t opposed to a closed social network even then—I was fairly active on Facebook at the same time. But they’re used in vastly different ways. I never would have understood the appeal of Twitter at all if I needed to sign up just to see all the weird rando stuff I’ve since come to follow and appreciate.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious? It's a very simple thread-based design. Threads are separated by approptiate dividers or whitespace or indentation. I don't get it.

The Twitter UI is a mess. It’s infuriating me to even try to explain the problem to someone who doesn’t see it. For example, can you explain to me - without going to try it out first - where exactly to tap (on a phone) to view the comments on a picture post in your home feed?

I do find this annoying now that I recall, but it's the same way to go to a thread here, the timestamp.
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