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Re: MDN Plus

#101

Post by robertlagrant »

kaycebasques wrote: post #74
mrzimmerman wrote: post #45

I’m not sure I’ve ever felt like I’ve needed to personally organize parts of MDN but I might just subscribe to support the place. Who knows, maybe I’ll love the new features. Notifications could be helpful, though I’m more the “check in when I’m about to use some method to see if it’s changed” kind of engineer and less the “stay as up to date as possible” kind of engineer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But hey, I’ll be supporting Mozill…

Notifications could be hugely valuable for developers who are looking to build feature-rich apps that rely on lots of new web platform features that are not yet supported on all browsers.

Why? You'll know them anyway from caniuse, given if you want to support a broad range of users you won't want to just support the latest version of browsers anyway.

Re: MDN Plus

#102

Post by dzogchen »

I was sitting on the train yesterday, when I opened a tab with a page from MDN that was already loaded. It quickly jumped to 'cannot connect' even though I didn't refresh. I wondered why it did that, but it makes perfect sense now.

Now I use Zeal[1] to still have the documentation available offline.

[1]: https://zealdocs.org/

Re: MDN Plus

#103

Post by duxup »

jefftk wrote: post #3

Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!

Sad truth is nobody wants to pay for anything and when they can they'll just complain.

I think we as internet users are as much a part of the 'you're the product' and 'free for life .. oh never mind' ecosystem because most of the users on the internet won't respond to anything else.

Re: MDN Plus

#104

Post by robertlagrant »

paxys wrote: post #100
robertlagrant wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People like only certain things about Mozilla, most of which aren't due to execs. Firefox being well engineered (and not having meddling pointless features such as "Colorways") and up on the latest standards, good engineering representation in browser standards from a non-Google, and MDN. That'll do. Oh, and Rust, but the execs already did for that. Don't need execs coming in selling VPNs with the browser. And that's…

So, good engineering things are not because of execs. Bad engineering things are all because of execs?

No idea. But the things I care about are detailed and engineering-related. Execs shouldn't exist by default. Even if I couldn't point to anything bad they've done, that's not enough activation energy to require them.

Re: MDN Plus

#105

Post by ary »

jefftk wrote: post #3

Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!

I was a loud proponent of this and just signed up at the $10 tier. I'm thrilled to see they put this together but still dismayed at the re-org that resulted in firing (some?) of the staff that maintained MDN.

Re: MDN Plus

#106

Post by vorpalhex »

jefftk wrote: post #3

Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!

I'll pick up a subscription. MDN is valuable and anything that helps keep the content free is valuable.

Re: MDN Plus

#107

Post by ketzo »

nerdponx wrote: post #85
mrzimmerman wrote: post #45

I’m not sure I’ve ever felt like I’ve needed to personally organize parts of MDN but I might just subscribe to support the place. Who knows, maybe I’ll love the new features. Notifications could be helpful, though I’m more the “check in when I’m about to use some method to see if it’s changed” kind of engineer and less the “stay as up to date as possible” kind of engineer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But hey, I’ll be supporting Mozill…

Is it possible to donate directly to MDN somehow? I already donate to the Mozilla foundation, not sure if that money all goes to the same place.

An MDN subscription is probably a better number on a chart somewhere, if that’s what you really care about supporting.

Re: MDN Plus

#108

Post by getcrunk »

paxys wrote: post #100
robertlagrant wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People like only certain things about Mozilla, most of which aren't due to execs. Firefox being well engineered (and not having meddling pointless features such as "Colorways") and up on the latest standards, good engineering representation in browser standards from a non-Google, and MDN. That'll do. Oh, and Rust, but the execs already did for that. Don't need execs coming in selling VPNs with the browser. And that's…

So, good engineering things are not because of execs. Bad engineering things are all because of execs?

Generally, yes. That is the allegation. If you don't agree with that fine, but I'd imagine alot of engineers would agree with that in general with their experience in industry. Let alone Mozilla.

Re: MDN Plus

#109

Post by sendilkumarn »

aldebran wrote: post #39
andrew_ wrote: post #14

Am I an outlier or does their head of product not really appear to have a bead on what developers actually want?

This actually is a very good product. Pain points it addresses: 1. Notify when something changes 2. No clear and customizable learning path Business outcomes: 1. Generate revenue keeping privacy intact It seems to me this is a good solution. No need to make it about their head of product.

Notifications : Do you really need it? How often do we track a tutorial?

Collections : looks like a good option but bookmarks should help right?

Offline : well :shrug:

Re: MDN Plus

#110

Post by dijonman2 »

hk__2 wrote: post #87
_jal wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries? Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

> Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them? It’s a very common question when you give money to a non-profit, which Mozilla is.

Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit.

Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public records.

Pretty sure the foundation owns the IP etc and the corp leases it, funneling money around.

Statements are public.

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