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Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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I do wish the world would be more sympathetic to Ukraine and Tibet than it is currently ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet ).

Indeed. Both the Tibetans and the people of Xinjiang deserve much better than what they currently have.

And in Tigray and in Mali and in Yemen, ...

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I believe many "Czechoslovaks" feel with Tibet and also Ukraine these days. For those interested in history of "living torches" fighting for freedom: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Palach

Yeah, the cases of normal US citizens lighting themselves on fire to protest against the war in Vietnam was jarring, they would also do it right in front of the White House or other centers of US power

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Self-immolations_in...

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There are many kinds of "theocracy". The islamic republic of Pakistan is significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Or would your rather have them both as "rightful Chinese territory"?

Sure, but are you at all familiar with the history of pre-CCP Tibet? Their "theocracy" was likely worse than Saudi Arabias, both in terms of the sorts of punishments they inflicted upon their populace (routine gouging of the eyes, chopping of the limbs, and then hanging up for display) as well as the autocratic (serf-like) structure built up.

I am more familiar with the history of pre British India. Thankfully the British "civilized" my country. Surely China will do the same to Tibet.

The excuses people make for colonialism remain the same as centuries pass by.

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Is it really though? Does this generation get to decide that all generations following it should live under a theocratic dictatorship? I'm not sure that's a whole lot better than Chinese control. Anyone who thinks the old Tibetan monarchy/aristocrat system was a good form of government should really read up on it and not just assume it was paradise for the Tibetan people. They still had serfs and slaves.

There are many kinds of "theocracy". The islamic republic of Pakistan is significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Or would your rather have them both as "rightful Chinese territory"?

The history of Pakistan based terrorism in india suggests otherwise.

Saudi Arabia funds conservative schools of Islam all over the world , however they have yet to involve themselves in the kind of state sponsored terrorism Pakistan does.

For people outside these countries i would say Saudi is definitely better

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BTW have you a source for you claim? Stalin killed 9 to 20 millions people but many of them weren't jews.

Stalin was indeed violently antisemitic. See: The "doctor's plot", "Trotskyism", "rootless cosmopolitans", etc. Russian nationalists do indeed idolise him. But he wasn't Hitler. That aside, I urge people to look up Stepan Andriyovych Bandera and see that this is yet more Kremlin disinformation. Other Eastern European countries have also had to grapple with the Fascist connections of their so-called freedom fighters a…

So Israel and the European Parliament are now part of Kremlin desinformation?

How many indians did Churchill and his followers kill?

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> Stalin shot and killed more Jews than the Nazi ever could, I have doubts about that. Are you serious?

Fair, I read this book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands

Which is well researched. The Nazis killed about 5.4 million, Russians and Stalin killed the rest of the 14 million people that died during this period

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It's a big mess. The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet, so having that whole area be under the control of either one of these two actors is a recipe for ongoing stability concerns in the region.

> The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet Apart from the Brahmaputra, which flows through the part of India east of Bangladesh, I have a hard time finding a major India river that originates in Tibet. Certainly, the Ganges flows west to east. What river(s) do I overlook?

There are 4 sacred river that originate from Mt Kailash as far as I remember.

https://www.wondersoftibet.com/mount-kailash-four-river-sour...

(I have kayaked the Karnarli, well worth a rafting trip if you are in Nepal).

I think the Yarlung Tsangpo as well comes from one of them.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/80558/yarlung-tsang...

Ahhh, wait, in see you said India. That would be the Indus and Karnarli - which goes to the Ganges. Sorry rushed post not got time to remind myself.

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BTW have you a source for you claim? Stalin killed 9 to 20 millions people but many of them weren't jews.

The book the Bloodlands is far better researched than I claim to be:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands

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