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Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by judge2020 »

kekebo wrote: post #71
nonrandomstring wrote: post #4

Well done and thank you to all involved. You are making a real difference on the side of democracy, human rights and the values of the free world at an uncertain time when so much is under threat.

Towards the flagged sibling comment about the tor network providing a hiding place for illegal activities and terrorism: While it's non-trivial to inspect many aspects of tor traffic, an often used study metric has been the (determinable) percentage of connections to hidden services, which are usually assumed to be disproportionately malicious. This ranges around ~5% across most studies, the most recent one I can fin…

It's easier to account for the quantity of malicious use of Tor towards non-hidden internet websites

> Based on data across the CloudFlare network, 94% of requests that we see across the Tor network are per se malicious.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-trouble-with-tor/

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by nopcode »

qersist3nce wrote: post #8

So at this point it is ready for passing traffic through a SOCKS proxy. Meaning we can `cargo run --release -- proxy` and redirect applications to use port `9150` for their network connections. Couple of related questions: - Does anyone know, in a Linux distro, how to pass all system traffic through a SOCKS proxy port? I'm not looking for intermediary proxy handlers but an official method to force all user and system…

Best option is to use software that supports SOCKS. Alternatively you can set up local proxies (eg stunnel) or inject SOCKS support into the TCP calls of your app (eg. ProxyChains)

Tor only supports TCP, so you cannot route all traffic over Tor, you will have to drop a bunch.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by colesantiago »

krageon wrote: post #98
colesantiago wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them are, including this 'ZCash'. As long as there are enough greater fools to pump the price of the token. Only for them to lose their money in the end. Tor is already seen in a bad light for being used for illicit activity, terrorism, illegal drugs, etc. We can have and fund tools that enhances privacy without endorsing or taking money from a so called 'cryptocurrency' that exists to distribute fake internet…

> All of them are Perhaps instead of spreading even more ink around you could go into why you think this is the case. As it stands, the reader can only conclude you are angry - nothing else.

As I have mentioned before on other threads, crypto has no usecase other than to speculate on the token price, scam people and to embolden ransomware in the case with Zcash and other privacy tokens. On top of it all they all are unregulated and fluctuate too much to even act as proper currencies which they are not.

Other voices such as Luke [0] explain in vastly more than a HN thread.

[0] https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/the-technological-case-ag...

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by hexo »

fastball wrote: post #92
hexo wrote: post #84

The title. Omg. It is incorrect. Misleading. And infuriating.

How so?

Because it is just a library for rust programs. Not even close to reimplementation of Tor for general use.

edit: yea, downvoters, show your own inability to process truth. I love this grown up behavior here on HN.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by colesantiago »

Stupulous wrote: post #95
colesantiago wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this means that Tor taking money from Zcash is an explicit endorsement of the crypto token space and the scams and speculation and environmental destruction they harbour. Not to mention the ransomware enablement of a so called privacy token. I don't think Tor would want to be associated with all of that on top of all the other illicit activities they are already associated with.

Taking a donor's money is at most an implicit endorsement. If an active serial killer gave me a million dollars to make the world a better place, it would be wrong for me to refuse to move money from a bad actor to those in need.

Great strawman but I still disagree and it is not what is happening here, it is still an endorsement of crypto scams, and in the case for crypto, this only amplifies the adoption of ransomware, scams and sure bad actors because of the donation. It just makes it all worse.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by pitaj »

hexo wrote: post #105
fastball wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

Because it is just a library for rust programs. Not even close to reimplementation of Tor for general use. edit: yea, downvoters, show your own inability to process truth. I love this grown up behavior here on HN.

It's also a binary that supports a SOCKS proxy.

FYI, complaining about downvotes violates the HN guidelines.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by justinclift »

iamnotarobotman wrote: post #49
justinclift wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be exactly as unfounded as yours, yes?

Is it? There's just too many to list here, even after the shutting down of Silk Road, but these crackdowns cannot be ignored; and look what they found. Majority of criminals using it once again. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/08/349016/a-dark-we... [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2845616/biggest-ever-t...

k. And what about the people using it who aren't criminals, so aren't reported in the press?

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by nofunsir »

qersist3nce wrote: post #8

So at this point it is ready for passing traffic through a SOCKS proxy. Meaning we can `cargo run --release -- proxy` and redirect applications to use port `9150` for their network connections. Couple of related questions: - Does anyone know, in a Linux distro, how to pass all system traffic through a SOCKS proxy port? I'm not looking for intermediary proxy handlers but an official method to force all user and system…

Hey so I’ve been meaning to ask you about all this ssh traffic coming from your box. Do you know what that could be?

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by pjmlp »

krageon wrote: post #97
pjmlp wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do those same people also use SELinux?

Of course not. SELinux is functionally unusable due to it's historical ties. Which is a real shame, because the network limiting (used to be, it's been a while since I looked) is very easy to use and quite good.

So unusable that millions of people use it without knowing on their Android and ChromeOS devices.
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