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Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#101

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McMaster also has the best ecommerce tech stack I've ever seen. It should be the case study. It is incredibly fast. The checkout flow is different from anything I've ever used before, it's so fast, you don't even feel like you should be done. And, if you type plain text in the search box, it will translate that to a parametric search (for example, try '1/4"-20 screws', and you'll see that it takes you to the "screws" page with 1/4"-20 selected as the thread size).

If there's a such thing as rockstar software engineers, the people that made McMaster's site are it.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#102

It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

> It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. This is a HN pattern as old as the hills. If the headline invites bikeshedding, most people will bikeshed. If the article is long and complex, almost no one will read the article. This one has both.

To be fair, I read it, but not all the way to the end. This was almost a novel.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#104
Like politics, marketing thrives on "noise" and the loudest voice tends to win, not the best candidate

If you have a lesser product, marketing rolls out FUD to combat competitors and then it doesn't matter if you have a better mousetrap, no-one will believe it

For example most 5-star products on Amazon got that way because they often secretly give out tons of free product (or even cash) for positive reviews. Amazon and bot analysis can't tell a real human written review was secretly paid for. Noise "wins".

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#105

It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

The article is yet another one about supply and demand that ignores first day of microeconomics price theory:

If supply is low, demand is high, the price goes up.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#107
I just moved to the USA from the UK (having lived in Germany before) and the quality of the services I'm experiencing here is appalling.

To get concrete, we submitted an application for an apartment let. After not hearing back for 4 days we reached out and it looks like somehow they misplaced our application. By then the unit we wanted was gone so they asked us to pay a holding fee to ensure they would keep another unit for us. The online system simply didn't work, so we reached out and they informed us it was fix. But the system just marked the unit as rented rather than reserved, so we had to reach out again...

As Dan says defendants of the efficient market hypothesis will say that it isn't possible to provide a better service, or otherwise this letting agency would have been upended by competitors. Only that our experience with other agencies has been similarly poor, and our experience abroad is generally less so.

And is not only renting, most of our interactions here have been similarly shoddy. Which makes me think that either we have been incredibly unlucky or there is some common pattern. Here are some ideas for our particular case:

* Barrier to entry: Businesses like real estate require large capital and tend to be crowded already, so it is difficult for a disruptor to appear.

* Liquidity: While in theory we could *shop around* if we don't like a let agent, in practice there is a very reduced number of units that satisfy our requirements. It's easier to put up with a poor experience that compromise on the property.

* Corner cases: As new immigrants we had to go through some processes that most people don't experience. Probably is not worth for companies to optimize for these situations.

* Cultural normalization?: This is the most intriguing point for me. Maybe this level of shoddy service has been normalized and accepted in America - or at least the area we live in. Maybe people just don't know better and hence don't ask for more, and therefore companies can carry on providing what would be considered a sub-par service elsewhere.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#108
Reading this I get the feeling that Dan is missing a major selection bias: he has extremely high standards and is very competent, and tends to be friends with people who also have very high standards and who are competent.

It stands to reason that he and the people he interacts with are going to build things of higher quality than whatever is commonly available.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#109
post #16

I think it's that you don't notice things that work well. House foundations, light switches, filesystems, silicon manufacturing, water delivery, grocery store logistics, etc etc etc. These are all things that most people never notice because they just work. It doesn't even occur to people day-to-day that these things can fail.

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Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

#110
The problem here is actually very basic - markets do not enforce efficiency. Period. The efficient market hypothesis is simply wrong. Strong form efficiency was already formally disproven quite a while ago. Weak form efficiency has been show to only true if P=NP.

There is not really a strong need to go into why inefficiencies can persist, etc, because at a baseline, it turns out there is no provable theory that markets should be efficient at all.

Instead, we have the sort of equivalent of Galileo - people really badly want markets to be efficient. They feel like they should be, because intuitively, it seems like it should work that way (much in the "god does not play dice" sense). People who suggest they aren't, even when math backs them up, are ridiculed. Eventually, as Max Planck said, science will advance funeral by funeral, and we'll stop pretending markets should be efficient based on "the efficient market hypothesis". Or we'll discover P=NP! Which would be much cooler.

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