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Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#101

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Being blocked from sharing Russian-owned content is absolutely nothing like being cut off from the internet or information. At best it's limiting the spread of Russian-owned content. I'm not sure why HN comments are so quick to make these extreme fear-mongering comparisons. Just yesterday I saw a top comment comparing Youtube removing a video to Chinese censorship...

Exactly. If every Russian can see what an inconvenience it is to have Putin as a leader the hope is that they will be more inclined to do everything in their power to have him replaced. Some will of course just blame "west", but there will also be those who will come to question power.

Or, as happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, these actions could further radicalize an entire population.

I think it is safe to assume that if the west applies broad and indiscriminate sanctions that devastate the lives of everyday Russians, many/most are more likely to blame the west who directly imposed the sanctions rather than their own government who will very likely use propaganda to convince them to hate their western oppressors.

It is similar, in my opinion, to the broader Islamic radicalization that occurred after 9/11 when the US employed extraordinary rendition and enhanced interrogation techniques rather indiscriminately on both known terrorists and suspects captured without charge or due process/fair-trial.

Have you considered the risk that these actions could strengthen Putin’s grip on power and provide justification to the Russian people to escalate conflict further?

I gleaned this hypothesis From a recent Joe Rohan Podcast episode with Maajid Awaz, a former Islamic radical, who turned away from radical Islam and helped educate western leaders how to de-radicalize extremists after 9/11. [0]

[0] https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ugbn7cuab3mNgKbo81ajM?si=N...

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#102

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The article you link is written by Alexander Rubinstein - a former RT and Sputnik employee. He is a strong denier of Russian interference in the 2016 election, has been vocal in his support for Assad, and denied, not only China's genocide on Uyghurs, but that the Uyghur population even exists. There's an article on The Gray Zone by the center for right wing analysis here https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/2020/09/2…

here's an article [1] from Bellingcat (who are certainly quite different from RT and Gray Zone in terms of bias): > In the most high-profile, but far from isolated, incident showing how Ukraine’s far-right movement is being mainstreamed by government leaders, Ukrainian Prime Minister Honcharuk and the Minister of Veterans Affairs Oksana Koliada appeared at an October 2019 event organized by a far-right figure on tria…

I'm confused about what your argument is here. It sounds to me that your position is that this article is proof that Ukraine's government are Nazis (it's not), therefore Putin is justified both in invading Ukraine and the war crimes he's most likely responsible for during said invasion.

Is that correct?

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#103

I see people, government, corporation, media... say about "No war", say about they want peace. But their actions is actually spreading feud, tbh. Media is manipulated by government for their politics. Some people are forcing their own viewpoint to others. People blindingly spreads hates without deeply thinking. Many users from social platforms think they know very well about politics and say like a professor when arg…

Spreading feud is not going to war. There is no response to war that isn't going to spread feud. If the west allowed or pressured zelensky to step down or surrender, discord would still be sown, just with the Ukranian people instead of Putin

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#104

Top comment from an admin: """ We decided to do this due to the heavy cyber component to this war and the chance of manipulated content. Even seemingly innocuous links could be hosted by someone that is less benign. We certainly recognize that this is a pretty far reaching decision but there are generally other ways for most people to share the type of content that is being described. As to why this wasn't communicat…

This is the exact same response you'd get if it had everything to do with censorship.

id expect that if it were about censorship, they wouldnt say anything, and any instance of removal would be noted as being from the spam filter.

The spam filter intentionally or not does a lot of censorship

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#105

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Huh? It’s also the exact same response you’d get if it had nothing to do with censorship. Your comment offers nothing.

So this ^ deserves a downvote? Please tell me why.

It's basically the same comment as the gp

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#106
post #62

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He's talking about the Azov battalion. From wikipedia: > Azov Special Operations Detachment is a right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi unit of the National Guard of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion Neo-nazis and hard-right nationalists were instrumental in the violent coup of the democratically-elected government in 2014, and have since taken positions in the replacement government. I recommend this…

The article you link is written by Alexander Rubinstein - a former RT and Sputnik employee. He is a strong denier of Russian interference in the 2016 election, has been vocal in his support for Assad, and denied, not only China's genocide on Uyghurs, but that the Uyghur population even exists. There's an article on The Gray Zone by the center for right wing analysis here https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/2020/09/2…

Is the article inaccurate? Are there falsehoods?

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#107

This anti Russia bigotry is out of control. Disagree with the fighting all you want, but Russia is a big place with a lot of normal people just trying to live their lives. Everyone cheering for this should be ashamed of themselves for their blind Russiaphobia. A government is not its people.

The government depends on its people to be able to do things like run a war. You can't cleanly separate the two.

the only way this war ends without escalation is when the Russian people convince their government to stop fighting it

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#108
post #105

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So this ^ deserves a downvote? Please tell me why.

It's basically the same comment as the gp

I must be confused because I don’t see how. Isn’t it the exact opposite?

GP is essentially saying “that’s what you’d say if you were lying” and I’m responding with a silly, opposing example of “that’s what you’d say if you were telling the truth”. They are both meaningless statements. The second serves to point out the meaninglessness of the first.

Or I’m just going crazy.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

#109

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here's an article [1] from Bellingcat (who are certainly quite different from RT and Gray Zone in terms of bias): > In the most high-profile, but far from isolated, incident showing how Ukraine’s far-right movement is being mainstreamed by government leaders, Ukrainian Prime Minister Honcharuk and the Minister of Veterans Affairs Oksana Koliada appeared at an October 2019 event organized by a far-right figure on tria…

I'm confused about what your argument is here. It sounds to me that your position is that this article is proof that Ukraine's government are Nazis (it's not), therefore Putin is justified both in invading Ukraine and the war crimes he's most likely responsible for during said invasion. Is that correct?

> Is that correct?

Nope! I think Putin only cares about having a buffer zone from NATO, much like Afghanistan is (or was intended to be) for the US against China. I'm simply providing examples to your question upthread:

> Are they holding political office or have strong influence on the politics of Ukraine?

All 3 examples hold political office and 2 are upper-level administrative positions.

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