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Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media.

I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

#103

It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media. I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #103

It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media. I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Sure, as long as Russians have access to the rest of the world's news for a contrasting dialogue.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the effects of Russian disinformation campaigns on our society are real is this not a failure of czech/european society at large instead of RT?

because idiots exist everywhere, they buy the russian propaganda like warm bread

So either get rid of the idiots or get rid of the propaganda. It is easier to get rid of the propaganda.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #103

It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media. I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Would you apply the same standard to BBC? If not, what's the difference?

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #103

It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media. I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Something makes me suspect that you never ever watched RT for even 5 minutes. Am I right?

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #106
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Would you apply the same standard to BBC? If not, what's the difference?

The difference is, RT is pure, unadulterated, lie. It's government-sponsored infowars. It's under complete control by FSB/KGB and serves exclusively as a platform for launching russian PsyOps.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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post #82
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from the Czech Republic (inside former USSR's 'sphere of influence'), and the effects of Russian disinformation campaigns on our society are real. We are in a 'hybrid war' with Russia for at least ten years.

> and the effects of Russian disinformation campaigns on our society are real is this not a failure of czech/european society at large instead of RT?

What society is not susceptible to propaganda? Most Russians still think the war is just in the places where there are large Russian minorities and have no ideia the Russian government is attacking the fucking capital of Ukraine

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

#110
post #103

It's depressing how utterly normal this level of censorship has become in Western society. Ten years ago there would have been at least a modicum of ho-hum about decisions to ban foreign media. I've watched RT on a few occasions and I never thought their reporting outright propaganda. It does have a clear non-pro-West bias which gives you a dose of awareness that Western reporting is biased too.

What is your point? That Russia state TV should be available everywhere so everyone can watch Russian propaganda?

Yes. One man's "propaganda" is another man's news. It's an assault on Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press.

I also note other news networks have been happily spouting anti-Russian propaganda as well (i.e. "Ghost of Kiev", "Miss Ukraine Fighting", and the "Snake Island Martyrs" to name but 3).

I also note none of the Western Media talk about shelling, murder, and rape of the ethnic Russian civilians in the Donbas since 2014. They call it "propaganda" now but 6 years ago these same western media outlets reported that "Fascist Azov Battalion Ukrainian Military were shelling and murdering Donbas "separatists" (now western media calls them terrorists).

News shouldn't have bias, full stop. news should just report the facts and let the viewer/listener decide. However, bar that both sides should have their voices herd in a democracy.

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