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Re: MDN Redesign

#101

Post by masswerk »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #22
StanAngeloff wrote: post #6

> In mid-2021 we started to think about modernizing MDN’s design [..] with an emphasis on improved navigability and a universal look and feel across all our pages. > > A new logo, chosen by our community [..] We worked closely with branding specialist Luc Doucedame Wait, this sounds like redesign for redesign's sake? > Coming soon: MDN Plus [..] In the coming months, we’ll be expanding MDN to include a premium subscr…

An outrageously good resource really, I use it almost every day! Very happy to pay for it.

I don't think that what to all practicality amounts to a tax on basic documentation for web technology would be a great thing or even a good idea. This would finally put an end to the Web as it was conceived.

(Yes, I walk every day, but this doesn't mean that I would welcome feet as a subscription service with the poor damned to crawling.)

Re: MDN Redesign

#102

Post by smusamashah »

I hate it. It is way less readable than previous one. It feels like another good thing bitten by "modern designers" who favour minimalism over usability.

Old design has more contrast, headings, links, warnings e.g. all distinct elements have a distinct visual style. Now, every element on the page looks same or as much similar as possible. They couldn't find anything better to do.

Re: MDN Redesign

#103

Post by seumars »

JSdev1 wrote: post #17

What's up with the huge amount of whitespace? This is supposed to be an information dense website, most of the screen is empty white. Not liking this, who designs this stuff? How to revert back, or I just need to add custom styles? Update: I added custom styles to remove 95% of the extra margins, padding, spacing, line-height, updated h1/h2/h3/h4 header styling, code highlight styling, and it looks 10 times better, I…

Also interested in the custom styles. Although I like the redesign, it's all over the place typographically – 300 only for h1, 400 for h2 with a slight increase in letter spacing (?!) – but can't be bothered to apply a fix myself.

Re: MDN Redesign

#104

Post by butz »

I feel that new website loads much faster that old one, especially navigating between pages. Nice. One annoying thing is that top bar probably is added a bit later, so all content jumps after load.

Re: MDN Redesign

#105

Post by LKNSI »

LKNSI wrote: post #92

I hate it, but that is just utterly subjective. I haven't had the time to formulate and ask myself why yet (just saw it 10 minutes ago), but I just feel hatred towards the new design. Could possibly change. The reduction of colors used that gave me visual hints feels like it's giving me less cognitive offloading - and I have to feel the new structure of the page. Maybe my hatred is just because of new(tm) - but yeah,…

https://imgur.com/a/8r3SXaa

Re: MDN Redesign

#106

Post by randomsilence »

irrational wrote: post #47

Does nobody remember these announcements from the past 5 years? Why would MDN need a subscription service? Why are Google, MicroSoft, Amazon, Apple, etc. not hosting MDN for free on their cloud platforms? Heck, why are they not fighting over the privilege to host it and put a big “Hosted on Azure” link at the bottom of every page? Why are these multi billion dollar companies not funding MDN when they claim in press r…

Does anyone of them see the web as their future platform? Each one of them apart from Amazon has at least one competing technology.

Re: MDN Redesign

#107

Post by idoubtit »

When the content is static, adding so much JS and CSS weaken the website for no good reason. There will be more bugs and annoyances after this redesign.

Now, scrolling MDN is sluggish with Vivaldi (YMMV). This is so annoying that I had to disable JS on MDN. I hope they'll fix this, but the amount of CSS and JS is probably too high to fix performance regressions.

From my browser console:

    [Violation] 'scroll' handler took 561ms
    [Violation] Forced reflow while executing JavaScript took 565ms
With Firefox, the scrolling is generally quicker, though irregularly. But jumping to the top of the page leaves some elements of the page completely white for half a second.

Disabling JS fixes most of those annoyances, but I'll have to enable it for some documentation examples.

Re: MDN Redesign

#108

Post by munk-a »

Strilanc wrote: post #70

Comparing the old version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210302090607/https://developer... to the new version: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/di... I notice that they: - Reduced horizontal space allocated to content - Reduced contrast (eg. code blocks have lighter gray background, compatibility table is no longer color coded) - Increased the amount of things that don't render if you disable…

Personally, I really miss the menu background contrast - if something is a floating sidebar please give it a modestly different background content so that it looks like the box-o-stuff it acts like.

Re: MDN Redesign

#109

Post by forgotpwd16 »

Strilanc wrote: post #70

Comparing the old version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210302090607/https://developer... to the new version: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/di... I notice that they: - Reduced horizontal space allocated to content - Reduced contrast (eg. code blocks have lighter gray background, compatibility table is no longer color coded) - Increased the amount of things that don't render if you disable…

Was going to say it looks okay but seeing a side-by-side comparison to the previous version cannot but think it's a downgrade.
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