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Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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The thing is, you don't have to be a Doomsday Prepper to just be prepared. It's about mitigating the risk of the disasters you are likely to face in your locality. I lived through the 2011 Super Outbreak [0]. Following the tornadoes, we had no actual damage (and most places didn't, tornadoes are pretty localized disasters, even in big outbreaks), but we had no power for about eight days because the tornadoes tore up…

re: communications - in the events that cellphone and internet infrastructure fails, what are the viable alternatives? Are landlines intrinsically more robust (or they share the internet fiber)? Shortwave seems obvious, but there’s an obvious education/investment/network barrier (no one I would want to communicate with is a HAM).

Satellite phones or BGAN.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Enjoyed this comment. Vibes with an essay by Cory Doctorow about needing a “bug in bag” not a “bug out bag”, to run towards community to help versus running to the mountains, as you need collective action to survive. https://boingboing.net/2015/12/21/a-survivalist-on-why-you-s... https://boingboing.net/2008/07/13/postapocalypse-witho.html

That's how the Japanese do it. If you have noticed, they do a really good job of responding to disasters. In fact, one of the funniest aspects, is that the Yakuza (Japanese mobsters) often are the first ones on the scene, and seem to take pleasure at beating the government response. I suspect that part of the reason is that organized crime tends to have an incredibly robust infrastructure, hardened against unpredicta…

I heard once that the Yakuza are actually in the phone book in Japan. Can anyone confirm?

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

#103
post #56

> Putting somewhere around 30-40% of your emergency stash into the stock market may be a good call. > The fundamental rule is to not be greedy: within the scope of this guide, your goal should be to preserve capital, not to take wild risks. It's best to pick about 10-20 boring companies that seem to be valued fairly, that are free of crippling debt, and that have robust prospects for the coming years. > It is worth n…

I also disagree with his take here, but I think there is some merit to the advice of "understand what you've invested in". It's fairly hard to personally evaluate companies in a fund - it is somewhat easier to evaluate a single company (or even 10 single companies). If I assume he means "~40% of non-retirement emergency funds" I can let this skate by. --- I also think there's some risk to index funds precisely becaus…

It seems like Berkshire Hathaway would be as hard to evaluate as an index fund. For example, do you understand or even know the other companies they are invested in? At the same time, they are probably more diversified than most mutual funds.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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This assumes a rapid, catastrophic collapse, which seems unlikely. Possible, but unlikely. More likely are localized disasters and gradual, sometimes imperceptible decline. These things have trickle-down impacts (migration, food shortages, etc) but are generally unlikely to trigger full on survival scenarios for most people. This isn't to say our industrialized food chain isn't problematic, it certainly is, but a gun…

> This assumes a rapid, catastrophic collapse, which seems unlikely. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists recently set the Doomsday clock to 100s to midnight.

OK? But I'm not sure of your point. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists doesn't know much more than the rest of us do about this. Anyone can tell you there's lots of nuclear weapons and that using them would lead to a massive social collapse. But a nuke hasn't been deployed in anger for nearly 80 years. In that time there's been countless natural disasters, pandemics, conflicts and social upheavals. I know what I'm planning for.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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The book Eternity by Greg Bear had an interesting take on this. In that book (spoiler) there is an exchange of nuclear weapons between the U.S. and Russia, which devastates the surface of the Earth. But many people survive, and a society quickly develops post-war. But it is dominated not by those who were most individually prepared, but by those who contributed the most to their neighbors and communities. There is so…

>But many people survive, and a society quickly develops post-war. But it is dominated not by those who were most individually prepared, but by those who contributed the most to their neighbors and communities. This is exactly what all the "prepper" survival types don't seem to understand. In a nuclear apocalypse, your supply stores will be nothing but a resource cache for roaming bands of killers. And your supply of…

I don't think feudalism is the correct term here, that was a very specific system where hereditary lords provided military aid to a king in exchange for the land which the serfs belonging to the lords worked. That seems closer to what you imagine prepper survival types want with the gun nuts lording over everyone else.

I don't believe most preppers think or act the way you imagine. The gun crazy redneck with a bunker is a trope from movies and reality TV.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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The book Eternity by Greg Bear had an interesting take on this. In that book (spoiler) there is an exchange of nuclear weapons between the U.S. and Russia, which devastates the surface of the Earth. But many people survive, and a society quickly develops post-war. But it is dominated not by those who were most individually prepared, but by those who contributed the most to their neighbors and communities. There is so…

“If you want to go fast go alone; if you want to go far go together.”

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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post #64

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If you have forced hot water heating, it's more difficult.

Isn't there a way to have some antifreeze additives in pipes where a pipe freeze is actually a realistic scenario?

Isolated pipes, preferably in door, and your good to go. Isolations also helps to limit heat loss, so generaly a good idea.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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For the most intense emergency situations: If you take up wilderness camping (hiking, floating, snow travel based) you accrue the kinds of equipment that can carry you through most realistic emergency situations. But, more importantly, you learn to use and maintain that gear to keep you hydrated, fed and warm. Beyond that it's a matter of knowing where to collect water and having or finding enough calories. The skill…

But is it tactical?

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

#109

The book Eternity by Greg Bear had an interesting take on this. In that book (spoiler) there is an exchange of nuclear weapons between the U.S. and Russia, which devastates the surface of the Earth. But many people survive, and a society quickly develops post-war. But it is dominated not by those who were most individually prepared, but by those who contributed the most to their neighbors and communities. There is so…

Self-preparedness and self-reliance is not mutually exclusive with community.

A community whose members are all self-prepared and self-reliant is a stronger community.

In the disaster preparedness books I have read being the "lone wolf" was never advocated and was actively discouraged.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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post #47

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While I understand non-violent, sometimes violence is the worst of your bad choices. I have no plan on shooting another human, but I need to reserve that right because there are people who will shoot me (Russia if you are in Ukraine)

Unless you are an active combatant in a war, or civil war, that's usually not your problem.

I plan to keep out of war. However those live in Ukraine a week ago you have no choice in the matter - I cannot ignore the possibility that the same might happen to me (though it does seem like a remote chance)
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