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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Congratulations! You bring an idea to brick all Russian phones including phones of opposition, people who against the war, political prisoners, and other people who just live in the country.

If the war is seen as something distant that has no impact at all on the average Russian's life will they actually care about it or will they just ignore it?

To be clear I don't wish anything bad for the general Russian population, among which I have many friends, let alone Putin's opposition. And this may not be the best strategic idea, but it's a possible one that fits the theme of this community - so I think the snarkiness is uncalled for.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#103
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> Where is the best place to invest money as the market falls? No sense in letting a crisis go to waste. There is an invasion with innocent people in the the line fire and you’re worried where to be invest to profit from it. Kinda hoping it was sarcasm, but suspect it wasn’t…

Well I'm curious what you're doing to help Ukraine?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#104

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

We aren't sending troops to Ukraine so that's irrelevant.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#105

To some extent this situation feels analogous to a street mugging happening in very slow motion The thug accosts the victim, threatens and then proceeds to assault the victim in full view of a large number of bystanders who are numerous enough to defend the victim and alter the outcome but not convicted enough to take on the inconvenience of doing so. Nevertheless all the bystanders voice words of encouragement and s…

When the thug has nuclear weapons, responses get a lot trickier.

It's possible for nuclear powered thugs to be beaten off. Just look at the Taliban. Destroying things is easy, but maintaining control is hard

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#106

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

What you're witnessing right now are the deathroes of the dictatorships like Russia and China with its aging leaderships. These dictatorships know that their time is limited; the democratic countries are getting stronger and more united. China, the one dictatorship that is supporting all the other dictatorships like Russia or Iran, is going into the final stages of debt/demographic/economic collapse. This is a pivotal time for the citizens of the free world to fight against these dictatorships.

And you can help by asking your government to sanction China. And stop buying goods from China

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#107
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I am curious, what do Russians think of this. Does anyone support him? Is it completely just one maniac with his friends running this. Is his propaganda that effective that Russians agree with any of it. I think if anyone can stop him, it has to be ordinary Russians. I don’t see sanctions or warnings from Biden or EU doing anything. And they will never directly step in and protect the Ukranian people.

It's complicated, because the government position on it is a few 'valid' concerns backed up with a lot of irrelevant bullshit about long-dead history. Practically, nobody is going to be stopping this. By deciding on sanctions, everyone in the west made it clear that it doesn't want to fight a war, and the regime is currently too secure to be threatened by internal dissent.

The best realistic outcome at the moment is something similar to what happened to Georgia - occupation of the two territories, a referendum, annexation, and an end to the proxy war.

Whether we are going to get that outcome, or something worse, is, of course, unclear.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#108
post #37

I am curious, what do Russians think of this. Does anyone support him? Is it completely just one maniac with his friends running this. Is his propaganda that effective that Russians agree with any of it. I think if anyone can stop him, it has to be ordinary Russians. I don’t see sanctions or warnings from Biden or EU doing anything. And they will never directly step in and protect the Ukranian people.

Putin has been busy cracking down hard on any descent for the past two years of his bunker dwelling. This round included not only the usual opposition organizations but independent news orgs and even the elites. I believe whatever his plans are it’s been at least a few years in the making

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#109

Between this and the takeover of Afghanistan it certainly has been an extremely sad year. The End of History? Not so fast. Free people not having a good run here.

The US was an occupier of Afganistan. The US agreed to a withdrawal in exchange for a truce with the Taliban under the previous administration, which was honored by the next administration. This is an invasion of a peaceful country by its neighbor. They are complete opposites.

The similarity is that the both the Russians and the Taliban do not allow for self-determination by the citizenry.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#110
post #26

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.

Ukraine never had the codes to use those nukes. They didn't give up a functioning deterrent.
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