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Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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As a side note: Secret services have been using GA to identify and track targets for years

Source? I couldn't find anything reporting that

Haven't seen mentions of GA itself, but it was obvious from context, as GA is part of wider ad targeting system - and those were explicitly used both by secret services as well as random hackers for target acquisition and initial hacks through vulnerable browsers of social engineering.

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

#102

I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)

> Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder.

Well, of course, tech companies, especially Google, Facebook, Amazon (and this one doesn't even respect basic work and union regulations and rights) are getting out of hand, making their life harder (if not dismantling them) is the legislator's job.

> Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies.

Again, yes, of course, so what ? The US (tech and government) has been prying on the rest of the world with its tech advance and has been using it to spy and gather data it could not get otherwise. France, the EU, are just defending their citizens' rights and their interests, especially economical, against another threat to civil liberties.

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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post #89

Google Analytics is the best analytics tool out there. By getting their companies off GA, European governments are weakening their industry. This probably holds true for many SAAS products. Many of the best are from the USA. Forbidding European companies to use them is a desaster for the European internet industry.

Google Analytics is hugely overrated. Most people don't use it properly, many browsers block it entirely , and you can usually do a better job just by looking at server logs.

Saying so just tells me that you never been analyzing and optimizing websites with millions of users. Websites on which a whole company depends on. It would be a crazy approach to try and do it via server logs.

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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post #89

Google Analytics is the best analytics tool out there. By getting their companies off GA, European governments are weakening their industry. This probably holds true for many SAAS products. Many of the best are from the USA. Forbidding European companies to use them is a desaster for the European internet industry.

You appear to have a very different idea of "best analytics tool" than I do. What is your ranking rubric?

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need GA for a website either. Many websites probably don't even need any form of analytics at all.

Do you really think we are in a better place now with GPDR and all these annoying cookie banners all over the place?

You know those "cookie banners" are illegal under GDPR too, and done specifically to annoy people into agreeing?

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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post #72

Sadly I don't see how this decision can be translated into practice, since I strongly doubt the CNIL will be able (or willing) to send formal notice, and fine after a grace period, all French companies that make use of Google Analytics on their website.

You never catch all the law breakers, but fines can be a good deterrent. That’s how it works.

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

#107

Is the CNIL actually starting to do its job? Since the early 2000's they were doing literally nothing against the many crimes against users committed by big tech. In the past few years though they started to distribute fines when the law was obviously and willingly broken (eg. Google)... did they suddenly start to care for users? or do they care that they can fill the pockets of the government (who doesn't dare to ta…

> Is the CNIL actually starting to do its job?

IIRC, They got massive funding with GDPR

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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post #33

I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)

> Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well) Yes, that's happening, and it's a good one. Privacy Shield was cancelled because of Schrems II. The US simply don't care (intentionally?) to protected any data of people not living in the US. With FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) or "Executive Order…

Let's add that NSA has long history of engaging in economic espionage, including against EU.

Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority

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post #89

Google Analytics is the best analytics tool out there. By getting their companies off GA, European governments are weakening their industry. This probably holds true for many SAAS products. Many of the best are from the USA. Forbidding European companies to use them is a desaster for the European internet industry.

Google Analytics is hugely overrated. Most people don't use it properly, many browsers block it entirely , and you can usually do a better job just by looking at server logs.

> and you can usually do a better job just by looking at server logs

Yes, if you only want to count visits and don't have a problem having all bot traffic included. For everything a bit more advanced you need a proper analytics tool.

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