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UK.gov to make adults give credit card details for access to Facebook or TikTok

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Post by desas »

Freak_NL wrote: post #15
Bancakes wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People already make accounts with phone numbers, I suspect credit cards won't be different.

The number of active credit card holders in the UK is somewhere in the 35 million range. The number of adults is somewhere over 56 million. There is quite a mismatch there. Unlike the US, owning a credit card is not standard for most people in the world. People tend to get them for online shopping abroad, and for travels out of their currency zone as a back up.

It's credit card OR id though. People like Experian are already offering age verification systems that check passports, driving licences etc. The government also have their own GOV.UK Verify programme which has multiple providers which prove identity and thus age.

If you can login to your government tax account, or apply for a DBS, you'll be able to prove your identity.

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Post by desas »

incompatible wrote: post #42
toyg wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they struggle enough as it is to attract younger users, credit card checks would completely kill the demographic for them.

There must be plenty of not-so-young people who don't have a credit card or passport. Edit: the article says "Adults would be forced to enter personal information like passport or credit card details", so I guess other forms of ID with a date of birth would be accepted.

The government already have a GOV.UK Verify programme for identity assurance that they want to be funded by the private sector. They'll presumably just encourage people to use one of those private operators (currently Digidentity and Post Office) and maybe it'll encourage more operators to spring up.

See https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/introducing-govuk...

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Post by jsnell »

Is there really a lot of porn on those platforms? I would have expected porn to be forbidden by the content policies of any big service with user generated content, it's probably the easiest kind of abuse to automatically detect, and it's something the services are very motivated to keep out since they can't sell ads on that content. I have never heard of either of those platforms as having a reputation for hosting porn.

Re: UK.gov to make adults give credit card details for access to Facebook or TikTok

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Post by toyg »

desas wrote: post #102
incompatible wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There must be plenty of not-so-young people who don't have a credit card or passport. Edit: the article says "Adults would be forced to enter personal information like passport or credit card details", so I guess other forms of ID with a date of birth would be accepted.

The government already have a GOV.UK Verify programme for identity assurance that they want to be funded by the private sector. They'll presumably just encourage people to use one of those private operators (currently Digidentity and Post Office) and maybe it'll encourage more operators to spring up. See https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/introducing-govuk...

They screwed up that for me. I registered, worked with it for a few months (via Expedia, iirc), then they just said "sorry, we're disabling this for you" - probably because of Brexit, but who knows. Can I recover my account somehow? Who knows, I couldn't be arsed and just let my accountant do things for me.

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Post by pvaldes »

makomk wrote: post #75
oxfordmale wrote: post #48

This needs to be seen in the context of the political situation in the UK. Boris Johnson, the current PM, is currently on this 9th and last political live. During the strictest period of lockdown, when UK citizens where not able to say goodbye to loved ones dying in hospitals, several parties were organised at his residence . It is alleged he attended two of them himself and was photographed drinking beer. In attempt…

I'm pretty sure that it was the leader of the opposition who was photographed drinking beers with his colleagues during lockdown, and everyone seems to have bought the claim that was work related and therefore legal. Boris and his colleagues were drinking wine. The big reason that he's on his 9th and last political life is increasingly cynical attacks on him over the handling of Covid - for context, one of the most r…

"if it was another..." is political fiction. The fact is that the leader of the opposition wasn't caught partying like a teenager on Ibiza on those days. We'll never know what would happen so lets not assume a different outcome by default.

In any case, this partygate looks to me like an excuse to push the dead weight out of the car when is not useful anymore.

If he were acting as a serious PM at the same time and taking smart actions, the event could be sold easily as 'diplomatic work', hanging up with the people that counts in the public interest and so, and nobody would bat an eye. Nobody. Is just that the videos are too damaging and that damage control train has passed yet.

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Post by wdb »

oxfordmale wrote: post #48

This needs to be seen in the context of the political situation in the UK. Boris Johnson, the current PM, is currently on this 9th and last political live. During the strictest period of lockdown, when UK citizens where not able to say goodbye to loved ones dying in hospitals, several parties were organised at his residence . It is alleged he attended two of them himself and was photographed drinking beer. In attempt…

The most worrying thing about the political situation in the UK is that it is years ahead of other countries. I can see similar madness happen in the future in some EU countries, the script already exists. I think a country like NL can be a target. I think it's really worth the effort to analyse what happen in the UK over recent years and how we can learn from it

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

wdb wrote: post #106
oxfordmale wrote: post #48

This needs to be seen in the context of the political situation in the UK. Boris Johnson, the current PM, is currently on this 9th and last political live. During the strictest period of lockdown, when UK citizens where not able to say goodbye to loved ones dying in hospitals, several parties were organised at his residence . It is alleged he attended two of them himself and was photographed drinking beer. In attempt…

The most worrying thing about the political situation in the UK is that it is years ahead of other countries. I can see similar madness happen in the future in some EU countries, the script already exists. I think a country like NL can be a target. I think it's really worth the effort to analyse what happen in the UK over recent years and how we can learn from it

The UK and Australia take it in turns. One will introduce a bill, get it slapped down, then the other country uses those learnings to tweak the bill until its within the Overton window... and then it's law.

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Post by ben_w »

makomk wrote: post #75
oxfordmale wrote: post #48

This needs to be seen in the context of the political situation in the UK. Boris Johnson, the current PM, is currently on this 9th and last political live. During the strictest period of lockdown, when UK citizens where not able to say goodbye to loved ones dying in hospitals, several parties were organised at his residence . It is alleged he attended two of them himself and was photographed drinking beer. In attempt…

I'm pretty sure that it was the leader of the opposition who was photographed drinking beers with his colleagues during lockdown, and everyone seems to have bought the claim that was work related and therefore legal. Boris and his colleagues were drinking wine. The big reason that he's on his 9th and last political life is increasingly cynical attacks on him over the handling of Covid - for context, one of the most r…

> I'm pretty sure that it was the leader of the opposition who was photographed drinking beers with his colleagues during lockdown, and everyone seems to have bought the claim that was work related and therefore legal.

Both were photographed with beer.

This is the photo of Keir Starmer: https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/07/keir-starmer-cleared-of-lockd...

The photo of Johnson is not AFAIK in public circulation; the police have it as part of the evidence they are currently investigating, in particular that this was part of his unlawful birthday celebration with his coworkers.

The picture in this article is not, I think, of this incident: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/04/police-have...

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