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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by Mikeb85 »

mercy_dude wrote: post #71

I spent a decent part of my adult life in Canada and I can’t believe what in God’s name is happening to that place. Canada is experiencing a severe housing bubble at the backdrop of Chinese snow washing, wage stagnation is real and middle class is slowly getting wiped out. The only thing keeping the GDP at the level it is is high level of immigration which favours the wealthy in the name of a “point based immigration…

As a Canadian, it's been utterly shocking to watch our country crumble in the last few years. This summer I'll be moving away for good.

In the last decade I've seen most of my family leave for the US due to the higher incomes. I always kept hope that maybe Canada would get better. It hasn't, it's gotten very bad. The insane level of immigration has eroded away any leverage the working class has. Now you see all that frustration coming out, on both sides of the political spectrum, with each side blaming the other.

Housing and necessities are un-affordable for everyone, the divisive rhetoric has turned society against each other. Simply being in Canada is depressing now. I just got back from 2 months in Europe, the difference is shocking.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by 908B64B197 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #40
Mikeb85 wrote: post #27

Also keep in mind that in the backdrop of all this is the fact that our Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists. Probably inspiring someone who ran over some protesters in Winnipeg. Canadian news and politicians are desperately trying to denounce the protesters while ignoring the fact that Canada has some of the harshest Covid restrictions in the world at the moment, while the US has hardly a…

Even more stupid: Canadian media and Twitter users saying they are “fringe” because by a poll (totally no incentive to lie on those), 85% of truckers are vaccinated. To which I say: A. I bet more than 15% are unvaccinated because why answer honestly with Canada’s level of restrictions and penalties? B. If it is actually 15%, that’s not fringe, and also that’s low enough that dropping the mandate should be reasonable…

> Canadian media and Twitter users saying they are “fringe” because by a poll (totally no incentive to lie on those), 85% of truckers are vaccinated.

The state sponsored ones?

At this point I don't think it's only about the vaccines.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by s1artibartfast »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #89
s1artibartfast wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also have to consider that unvaccinated answering the poll honestly would be admitting to something that puts their livelihood on the line. I imagine that a disproportionate number would refuse to respond at all.

Imagine if I ran a nationwide poll asking if you’d ever had a felony conviction. I bet the numbers for that poll would be way lower than the real statistics. People don’t answer honestly on polls if they feel there is any way (even a perception) that this could come back and hurt them.

Or if you asked if you got away with a felony crime!

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by lowlevel »

behringer wrote: post #83
bigodbiel wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t understand this dichotomy. Just because one is vaccinated, does not mean they are pro-mandates.

I'm pro vaccine but the mandates and access cards and testing requirements makes me sick to my stomach

I had to sign a letter with my employer stating that I accepted I could be terminated should I not be fully vaccinated by Dec 31, 2021. I feel a line has been crossed, and I fully support the idea that the mandate is bad. Vaccines are great, I voluntarily got it anyway, but I don't feel it's ok to say you deserve to be fired or worse (and I've heard much worse) if you decide the vaccine is not for you. I support the protest. It is not an anti-vax protest. I do not beleive it is about racisim or white supremacy despite what our prime minister says or thinks.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by unethical_ban »

throwawaysea wrote: post #42
16012022 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral. They can choose any side they want. If you don’t like it, don’t use their platform. Gosh, when did the notion of private firms got so mixed up with so-called political neutrality? Are people this naïve?

In a free society, businesses shouldn’t be able to suppress or punish customers for their political views. We already require businesses to not just do whatever they want in many ways. That’s what anti discrimination laws do, for example. We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well. Apart from that, we also regulate a lot of private companies to be neutral. Your power utility may be private but…

>In a free society, businesses shouldn’t be able to suppress or punish customers for their political views.

>We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well.

I have not gasped at the outlandishness of an HN post in some time.

GoFundMe is not a grocer, or a transit provider. It isn't a power company. It is a luxury service in a free market with low capital requirements.

Under no circumstance should arbitrary businesses be required to cater to people of all political persuasions.

Protected classes exist based on attributes of ourselves which are immutable. You can't change being a woman, being old, or being a particular ethnic group. You certainly "choose" your political opinions.

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