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I can't shake the feelings that a trillion or a quadrillion parameters won't solve the fundamental shortcomings of ML models not being models of artificial intelligence. I guess there's no way of knowing until we reach AGI, but I've never heard a compelling argument for why pure ML would get us there. GPT3 seems more like an argument against that hypothesis (in my view) than for it. Even the best, most expensive mode…

Scaling hypothesis says that we just need more processing power to achieve things we regarded as "impossible for non-intelligent agents". So far, scaling hypothesis is proving itself correct despite still prevailing skepticism.

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post #11

Anybody else get the sense that we're just totally frickin doomed? Even if Yudkowsky is off about AGI (which is a big maybe!) in what possible world will this technology be used to make our individual lives better (assuming you're not a FAIR researcher?)

Have you ever heard of AlphaFold? [0]: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-...

Or RosettaFold

https://github.com/RosettaCommons/RoseTTAFold

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post #92

I can't shake the feelings that a trillion or a quadrillion parameters won't solve the fundamental shortcomings of ML models not being models of artificial intelligence. I guess there's no way of knowing until we reach AGI, but I've never heard a compelling argument for why pure ML would get us there. GPT3 seems more like an argument against that hypothesis (in my view) than for it. Even the best, most expensive mode…

I feel that for there are three requirements for a NN-based AGI, inspired by biology: a). an internal feedback loop that evaluates a possible output without actuating it, and self-modifies the parameters if the possible output is not what it's needed b). the capability (based on a) to model own behaviours without acting on them, and to model other agents behaviours and incorporate that model into the feedback c). the…

Cruise actually consider both social dynamics and uncertainty (i.e. what can hide behind an obstacle, or where are pedestrians/bikes/cars likely to move to).

If you are interested in self-driving cars, I can highly recommend their presentation from November 2021:

https://youtu.be/uJWN0K26NxQ?t=1467

For me it felt more convincing than Tesla's (a few months prior);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0z4FweCy4M

Re: Meta Unveils New AI Supercomputer

#104

I can't shake the feelings that a trillion or a quadrillion parameters won't solve the fundamental shortcomings of ML models not being models of artificial intelligence. I guess there's no way of knowing until we reach AGI, but I've never heard a compelling argument for why pure ML would get us there. GPT3 seems more like an argument against that hypothesis (in my view) than for it. Even the best, most expensive mode…

Scaling hypothesis says that we just need more processing power to achieve things we regarded as "impossible for non-intelligent agents". So far, scaling hypothesis is proving itself correct despite still prevailing skepticism.

In my experience, the data becomes quite limiting.

Re: Meta Unveils New AI Supercomputer

#105
post #92

I can't shake the feelings that a trillion or a quadrillion parameters won't solve the fundamental shortcomings of ML models not being models of artificial intelligence. I guess there's no way of knowing until we reach AGI, but I've never heard a compelling argument for why pure ML would get us there. GPT3 seems more like an argument against that hypothesis (in my view) than for it. Even the best, most expensive mode…

I feel that for there are three requirements for a NN-based AGI, inspired by biology: a). an internal feedback loop that evaluates a possible output without actuating it, and self-modifies the parameters if the possible output is not what it's needed b). the capability (based on a) to model own behaviours without acting on them, and to model other agents behaviours and incorporate that model into the feedback c). the…

That's what gets me about self-driving cars. The road is a very social space, and follows social rules. Pretty much all of the communication and norms happening on the road are social ones.

The thing that would convince me AGI is ready would be to play a convincing game of poker. Or join in on a conversation mid-way through, listen to it, and engage with it actively. Show that machines are able to pick up on social cues, understand them, and learn new ones. It's a high bar, yes, but it's in my opinion a prerequisite for a self-driving car that's able to share roadways with other cars, cyclists, and kids playing in the street.

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How far can we actually take current machine learning technologies by scaling the underlying hardware? Are we going to see some AI algorithms that are 20% better or an order of magnitude better? And what will that realistically look like to an end user? This will have cost a lot of money and maybe the news alone will push stock prices and mean its paid for itself but is it actually going to result in a substantially…

I was just in a Twitter Spaces room and they have a live transcription feature, so as to be accessible and all, except the transcript was gibberish. If Facebook wants live translation in the Metaverse, they should hope this brings orders of magnitudes improvement to voice recognition, especially in languages other than english (by far the largest training set available)

I obviously don't know the parameters of the room you're referencing, but is it possible that the majority of the issue is on the side of poor user audio and a large number of simultaneous speakers? I find YouTube's transcription to be quite impressive with a handful of speakers and moderate audio quality.

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#108

Could this have been the reason for chip shortage?

Nvidia and AMD shipped 12.7m cards collectively in 2021, I don't know what the breakdown is on consumer vs corporate but I find it hard to believe this had any impact.

Correction: terafo pointed out they shipped 12.7m cards in Q3 2021 alone.

Re: Meta Unveils New AI Supercomputer

#109

I can't shake the feelings that a trillion or a quadrillion parameters won't solve the fundamental shortcomings of ML models not being models of artificial intelligence. I guess there's no way of knowing until we reach AGI, but I've never heard a compelling argument for why pure ML would get us there. GPT3 seems more like an argument against that hypothesis (in my view) than for it. Even the best, most expensive mode…

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Anybody else get the sense that we're just totally frickin doomed? Even if Yudkowsky is off about AGI (which is a big maybe!) in what possible world will this technology be used to make our individual lives better (assuming you're not a FAIR researcher?)

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