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Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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> Also, it's a bad practice to associate flags with languages There's even a website for this issue http://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-re...

Don't think the site is going against these. It says "Choose Location and Language" and offers for example: - :us-flag: United States [USD] - :ca-flag: Canada (English) [CAD]

What it should offer is two separate options: One for the store location, one for the language. This becomes especially important in Europe because you have so many people who live in a country where they don't speak the associated language natively.

This is such a basic UX rule that I'm a bit surprised to see them fumble on it...

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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I've been using a Framework laptop for a month on Ubuntu 21.10 and pretty happy with it. Some hiccups but mostly answered by digging through forums. Battery life in operation is excellent, but it does drain 30% in 8 hours when on suspend which is a bit much. Not a dealbreaker but hope this can be solved.

I can imagine that the power draw in S3 could come from having (replacable) DDR Memory instead of (mostly soldered) LP-DDR Memory. edit: typo.

The problem is that current Intel laptops don't use S3 anymore, they use S0ix a.k.a. "modern standby", an abomination where the CPU doesn't really sleep and the battery drains fast.

Dell, Lenovo, HP etc. all have the same problem.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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This is not related directly to the announcement, but touches on a thing that infuriates me to no end - for some reason the site assumed that because I live in the EU and relatively close to German border, I speak German and presented the site in that language. Despite my high-school teacher's heroic efforts, I can at best understand a few basic phrases. I didn't even know what to click in the cookie pop-up to kindly…

Google is particularly bad about this, they basically make it impossible to get normal English-language results if you're in another country, unless you mess with the URL parameters (gl=us). Like if you're in Germany, you can set Google's language to English, but you're gonna get mainly German results for any search. A bizarre choice.

I'm German, I live in Germany, and I too hate this behaviour. I rarely want out of date badly translated variations of the original US topics.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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Seems too good to be true. Reasonable prices, upgradable, no soldered ram. So has it been a reliable Linux laptop, what's the battery life with your options?

You nailed it, battery is the only downside I’ve had, not awful but probably say 3 hours of video playback, or 5-6 hours of web use. Haven’t used it unplugged all that much so very rough guesses. Bigger problem with my fedora install at least is battery draining while the lid is closed. Overall great machine Edit: I may be missing software updates that improve this, no idea

I very much wanted to hear about this and damn :-( Video playback must be hardware accelerated by now and be super efficient. Another worry was about low power sleep modes and waking up, and looks like it is not solved too. I might have to suck it up and buy the Mac for my needs after all. I have my trusty Linux desktop for all my big compute needs. I was hoping to make the mobile machine also run Linux, but the specific needs there (crisp display, nice battery life, Linux friendliness) seems to be an elusive goal.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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Side note: the language selection is stupid on the website. No, I'm not from Germany, and I don't speak German even if it's the closest country to me that you sell laptops in. Also, it's a bad practice to associate flags with languages. Or to give options that don't work after you select them. Otherwise, very nice news!

Do you have an alternative iconography for language selection? It undoubtedly makes the UX better, especially with many languages

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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Side note: the language selection is stupid on the website. No, I'm not from Germany, and I don't speak German even if it's the closest country to me that you sell laptops in. Also, it's a bad practice to associate flags with languages. Or to give options that don't work after you select them. Otherwise, very nice news!

> Also, it's a bad practice to associate flags with languages There's even a website for this issue http://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-re...

Disagree, examples in the blog are poo. English comes from... England... why shouldn't be represented with an English flag? Spainish comes from... Spain... why shouldn't be represented with a Spanish flag? There are Spanish speakers in literally every country in the world, what is the solution?

The Hindi argument is not good, Hindi is the _official_ language of India. I work with people from various parts of India and they can all communicate with each other because thry all speak Hindu/English (usually a mixture in conversation), even if their main language is Malayalam.

There are issues with flags = languages (e.g. "Welsh": "Gaelic" for instance, or Switzerland (which one?), but for English/Spanish examples, they are not good ones to use

And to end this, just because there is a website for your issues doesn't mean it's correct. There is nothing preventing someone from making a website called flagsarelanguages.com and having poo counter points to the original websites poo arguments. Appeal to authority nonsense.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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They don't have a language selector, they have a region selector which sets the appropriate currency, VAT (presumably), and also language, yes. It's an entirely appropriate usage of flags.

It is not. I can be present in Germany and want my laptop delivered there. That does not mean I speak a word of German. Language and physical location are disjoint. Even worse when I know the original content is in English, my preferred language, but someone decides I only deserve the partial translation.

You can switch the region then, it takes 3 seconds and persists across visits.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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I've been running NixOS on my Framework for the last few months, and I've been really happy with it. I initially got it so I'd have viable hardware to do osdev on, so learning that they are going to open-source its firmware makes me even more happy.

Seems too good to be true. Reasonable prices, upgradable, no soldered ram. So has it been a reliable Linux laptop, what's the battery life with your options?

From what I've heard battery life is much worse on Linux than Windows. If you're willing to spend some time hacking around you can close the gap a bit, but it'll still be a gap.
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