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Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

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Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#101
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One player is missing on this table, the biggest one: YouTube. Not Music, just YouTube. They're beating all others in play counts by a magnitude.

That's what I use 99% of the time though perhaps I should check out what YouTube Music is about.

Edit: Checked it out and some of the songs in my playlists are grayed out in Music perhaps because it thinks those are non-music videos but nonetheless it looks inferior for my purposes.

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#102
post #70

I recently switched to iPhone from Pixel. The overall UI touch responsiveness and battery life is an upgrade but the OS features are neither upgrade or downgrade. I also got Apple Music trial for 6 months while having a YT subscription. Even though the app seems just fine and nice looking but why would anyone pay for it vs. YouTube Music? With YouTube you get a larger selection of songs (including all user uploaded s…

> So what exactly is the rationale to pay for Apple Music?

For $20 my wife and I both get Apple Music, Apple TV+ (several shows we enjoy on there), 200GB Cloud Storage, and subscription access to a bunch of video games.

2 subscriptions to YouTube Music by itself would cost us the same $20, with none of the other benefits (and it has a muuuuch lousier selection of stuff I like, at least – plus a lot of the user-uploaded content has audio quality on par with some 96khz mp3 I'd have gotten off of napster two decades ago, whereas Apple's increasingly streaming lossless)

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#103

I am long term bearish on Spotify, and if I could isolate Apples music business or Amazons, I would take the following trade all day: long (aapl music)(amzn music)(youtube music), short Spotify. Their recommendation engine is just not that good. Youtube Music has a far superior one.

I agree on the recommendation piece, but Apple’s playlist and library management is atrocious, especially on desktop. Why can’t I drag-and-drop music into a playlist in the sidebar? Apple Music also feels (to me, at least) much slower than Spotify. Most likely this is due to the more aggressive client-side caching that Spotify does, but it’s worth the trade-off, in my opinion. These are solvable problems for Apple, t…

The most frustrating thing in Apple Music for me is that it's album-centric. I can't just say "put this artist in my library". No, I have to put every individual album, EP, and single that I want.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#104

Apple Music only has significant usage because of their anti competitive behavior. All apps on the App Store have to go through rigorous review and are restricted to Apples discretion in being granted access to OS features while Apple themselves use undocumented features to compete as a platform. Try hooking up AirPods to your iPhone and do nothing else. The Lock Screen changes to have an Apple Music player with a ra…

Try hooking up AirPods to your iPhone and do nothing else. The Lock Screen changes to have an Apple Music player with a random song you may have never listened to.

Just tried it and had a different experience. The lock screen showed the last thing I was listening to last night: The SiriusXM app.

It's funny because this sometimes catches me by surprise. I'll go to sleep listening to Sirius. Then I'll get into the car 18 hours later, and when the phone auto-connects to the car radio, it suddenly starts playing 40's Junction when I'm merging into traffic.

Happens all the time, but I'm still surprised every time it does.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#105

I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…

The thing that kills Spotify for me is how pushy it is combined with the frequent unnecessary UI changes.

The lack of an API that allows track playback is a huge, huge bummer too (look up the saga of libspotfy if curious) — shockingly, Apple Music is more open in this regard, with multiple alternative third party clients being available thanks to JS and native Mac/iOS SDKs.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#106
I have a huge and old MP3 library that is an amalgamation of my CDs, and some of my parent's CDs too. I think it's about two or three months of classical music. I suspect that many HN readers also have similar stories.

None of this will show up in a market survey like this.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#107
post #73

I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…

I agree that Spotify is a much better ‘listening experience’ (ie discoverability etc) but the problems I have between Spotify and my HomePod(s) is almost enough for me to switch back to music - it is infuriating, needing to reboot the HomePod to get it to play anything again (apparently an issue with Spotify not supporting airplay 2 but the flow on effects are weird)

I got a HomePod mini last week. I have used Spotify probably about 20-30 times by tapping it with my phone or using AirPlay from the control Center. Zero issues. The lack of _native_ Siri support is a joke though. Spotify really need to pull their finger out on that one.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#109
post #38

I was a long time user of Google Play Music until they killed it and moved everyone over to the inferior YouTube Music product. I suffuer through it mostly because it comes bundled with YouTube+ which removes ads.

Same. Ad-free YouTube is essential for me, and getting YouTube Music as part of the bundle is a nice bonus. I have the family plan but my kids are always bugging me to get a Spotify family plan instead. If I do ever cave and pay for Spotify, I'll have to keep the YouTube premium plan anyway since I can't go back to watching the obnoxious ads on YouTube.

Both Opera's built-in adblocker and uBlock Origin on other browsers takes care of most of this nicely for me.

Re: Music subscriber market shares Q2 2021

#110
post #70

I recently switched to iPhone from Pixel. The overall UI touch responsiveness and battery life is an upgrade but the OS features are neither upgrade or downgrade. I also got Apple Music trial for 6 months while having a YT subscription. Even though the app seems just fine and nice looking but why would anyone pay for it vs. YouTube Music? With YouTube you get a larger selection of songs (including all user uploaded s…

> So what exactly is the rationale to pay for Apple Music? For $20 my wife and I both get Apple Music, Apple TV+ (several shows we enjoy on there), 200GB Cloud Storage, and subscription access to a bunch of video games. 2 subscriptions to YouTube Music by itself would cost us the same $20, with none of the other benefits (and it has a muuuuch lousier selection of stuff I like, at least – plus a lot of the user-upload…

Youtube Music has a family plan for $15/m for 5 users and all users also get YT Premium (nee Red). It's a way better deal.
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