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Five Levels of Hype

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Re: Five Levels of Hype

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Post by boopboopbadoop »

nexuist wrote: post #69
boopboopbadoop wrote: post #37

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> Narrow streets can be equipped with some kind of helping beacons one day That changes the goal posts in my opinion. The “self” part of “self-driving” no longer applies.

Does it matter? If investing in smart infrastructure is what it takes to recognize this reality, who is this a downside for? It's like saying we can't build any more intersections because we'd have to buy traffic lights.

I’m criticizing the “self-driving” term, which seems to be having more and more asterisks applied to it. What’s next, the cars will need tracks?

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Post by maxilevi »

alexb_ wrote: post #99
maxilevi wrote: post #95

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The difference is you can't buy USD digitally. You say that but imo having a currency that loses 50% it's value every year is worse than holding Tether. I don't trust Tether either and thats why I am holding DAI.

>having a currency that loses 50% of it's value every year is worse than holding Tether What are you talking about? Tether (and many "stablecoins" like it, including DAI) are entirely based around the idea that they are pegged to the US dollar. If USD has inflation or deflation, so does the coin. The "50%" figure is just completely made up, and you know it - inflation right now is pretty bad, but saying USD lost 50%…

Please read the comment chain, I don't live in the US nor have the USD dollar as the currency of my country.

> The "50%" figure is just completely made up, and you know it - inflation right now is pretty bad, but saying USD lost 50% of its value is just completely and utterly wrong.

I am talking about the Argentine Peso not the US dollar. And this just makes my point stronger. If you think 6% (USD inflation right now) is pretty bad just imagine holding a currency with >50% inflation every year.

> ...again, this is just blatantly untrue on every level. You can use almost any bank and they will convert it for you.

What are you talking about? Not every place has a free market like in the US.

In Argentina the banks only sell you at most 200USD dollars per month and only if you meet very specific requirements. And that's what capital controls mean. The banks are not allowed to sell foreign currencies.

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Post by hiptobecubic »

boopboopbadoop wrote: post #100
hiptobecubic wrote: post #40

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I mean, many people can't drive without safety features all over their cars, GPS to help them navigate, and road signs to tell them where to go. I don't see how "helping beacons" for robots are unfair but street lights are not.

Maybe I’m drawing conclusions about what these beacons would do, but if any of the things you mentioned stop working, I can still drive and won’t go full speed into a wall. I don’t have the same confidence in these beacons.

Why would a car that is having trouble orienting itself go full speed?

Re: Five Levels of Hype

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Post by hiptobecubic »

Wronnay wrote: post #44
hiptobecubic wrote: post #39

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Honestly, small streets where there's really only one thing you can do (go straight forward but don't drive into anything) are not as hard as where cars are already driving today because the speeds are very low and the distances you have to consider are are pretty short. This is not like making unprotected lefts across 6 lanes of traffic in Beijing. The hype around "full self driving" is exaggerated because today it'…

Did you ever drove through e.g. city centers in Europe or Asia? There are not only missing lines but it's often also used by many people which walk on it. A self driving system doesn't only have to figure out where the steet ends and walkways begins but also has to correctly detect many moving people and animals. Additionally, there are frequently side streets or walkways which are not mapped in every map database...

Yes. My point is that detecting people is not hard and everyone but Tesla already seems very good at it. What's hard is understanding what they want to do and reacting to it. That part is much easier if everything is going 10 mph or less.

Detecting inconspicuous transition between sidewalk and road is difficult, but if you haven't noticed, human drivers don't seem to care much about it either.

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Post by yumaikas »

tarsinge wrote: post #97
officialchicken wrote: post #63

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>superficial punchlines and logical fallacies I thought the writing and editing were excellent and well thought out. Can you give a specific example of when a logical fallacy was employed in the video?

Take the part 2: Personal comments on Vitalik, an history of scams during the period Ethereum was created but not directly related, a 100k grant Vitalik got which I fails to see the relevance too, a broad critic that can apply to any entrepreneur/programmer having a dunning kruger thinking they can easily disrupt an industry with software. Conclusion: > In terms of improvment over Bitcoin, Ethereum has many. It's not…

It is a rant, a well argued one, with a lot of salient points, IMO.

And ridicule is part of the point of text (not subtext) of the essay. Dan is making an emotional argument as much as he's making a logical one, because a lot of people will hear the emotional one where the logical one would just bounce off. Making something harmful actually seem uncool is a valid tactic, IMO.

Like, calling out Vitalik as a butthurt Warlock main is an attempt to make his origin story around the EVM seem to have a pathetic origin. Instead of applying himself to getting better at the new warlock meta, he went off and created a thing that has enabled a lot of real economic harm.

And pointing out the connection to Peter Thiel is as much about pointing out the involvement of big money in cryptocurrency as any specific character of Vitalik.

And it's not like Vitalik hasn't had a lot of chances to go "damn, the EVM is being used for a lot of harm. Maybe it wasn't worth it?"

Or maybe he has, and I (and Dan, because I think he'd have brought that up) have missed it?

Re: Five Levels of Hype

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Post by boopboopbadoop »

hiptobecubic wrote: post #103
boopboopbadoop wrote: post #100

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Maybe I’m drawing conclusions about what these beacons would do, but if any of the things you mentioned stop working, I can still drive and won’t go full speed into a wall. I don’t have the same confidence in these beacons.

Why would a car that is having trouble orienting itself go full speed?

Software bug? I think you’re dodging the point a bit - going into a wall at any speed is bad.

Alternatively, say it has trouble orienting itself and slows down. That can be just as dangerous if cars behind you are going fast (e.g. a highway).

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