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I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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post #3

I miss taskmgr so much on Linux/macOS. Everything in taskmgr feels so logical and manageable without extra steps.

I feel the complete opposite, interestingly enough. Apple process viewer and htop are what I want.

The "sample" option in Activity Monitor is golden. I can figure out why a process is hung without having to download and install extra apps.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has somewhat stripped down versions of the same kind of commandline process management: tasklist | findstr chrome.exe taskkill /IM chrome.exe /F taskkill /PID /F

Some people dislike windows but haven’t experienced modern niceties like powershell I doesn’t totally suck

I expected to like Powershell, but I came away even less happy in Powershell than trying to program bash. It felt so much as though it had been built by aliens who'd watched a video of Unix shell programming and integrated their own strange preferences, while also stirring in things from Windows.

At the end of a week's work, I had a script which worked on my system, but blew up on the production systems it was intended for, and although we eventually worked around the stupid problem I want nothing further to do with that work. I co-own the far larger C# project it's associated with despite never having written C# a year ago, C# feels like a nice but slightly boring modern language, I probably wouldn't choose to write it for pleasure, but I don't hate getting paid to do so. However I seriously regret assuming that it was worth writing the "obviously just a script" part in Powershell rather than wrapping it all in C# and having the "script" just run that.

So, maybe it "doesn't totally suck" but it sure does suck pretty badly.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#103
In this day and age (Windows 10), every time I have to use Task Manager it's because a fullscreen game has crashed, and I usually can't see Task Manager at all. It opens behind the fullscreen game and doesn't come to the foreground, even when I alt+tab.

I usually end up using the up/down keys to select the right process, looking at the Task Manager in the tiny preview that pops up while Alt+Tab is pressed. It is extremely annoying. I wish Ctrl+Alt+Del could open the Task Manager in the foreground...

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#104

People really got deep into their work back then.

Given the limited resources available at the time (cpu, disk, ram, etc) you really HAD to get deep into making things work. Otherwise it'd run far too slowly or need too many resources.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#105
post #10

A good reminder that holding down shift+ctrl+alt isn't always a harmless no-op.

It definitely isn't. Some linux distributions just restart without confirmation, if you try to invoke a task manager like you would on windows.

Do you mean invoking Task Manager with ctrl-alt-del or ctrl-shift-esc? I don't believe OP was saying either of those is typically a harmless no-op, but was referring to:

> If Task Manager ever becomes internally corrupted, kill/close it. Restart it while holding down CTRL, ALT, and SHIFT, and Task Manager will reset ALL internal settings to factory fresh if it sees that key combo at startup. Same works for every app I've written, btw, I think!

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#106
post #103

In this day and age (Windows 10), every time I have to use Task Manager it's because a fullscreen game has crashed, and I usually can't see Task Manager at all. It opens behind the fullscreen game and doesn't come to the foreground, even when I alt+tab. I usually end up using the up/down keys to select the right process, looking at the Task Manager in the tiny preview that pops up while Alt+Tab is pressed. It is extr…

You may try Windows key + D to hide the desktop or Windows key + M to minimize all windows.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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post #103

In this day and age (Windows 10), every time I have to use Task Manager it's because a fullscreen game has crashed, and I usually can't see Task Manager at all. It opens behind the fullscreen game and doesn't come to the foreground, even when I alt+tab. I usually end up using the up/down keys to select the right process, looking at the Task Manager in the tiny preview that pops up while Alt+Tab is pressed. It is extr…

You may try Windows key + D to hide the desktop or Windows key + M to minimize all windows.

Even minimized, the crashed fullscreen window stays on top. Apart from the Alt+Tab indicator, that is. I wish Task Manager could be on the same layer as that...

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#110
post #3

I miss taskmgr so much on Linux/macOS. Everything in taskmgr feels so logical and manageable without extra steps.

What do you like about task manager compared to e.g. Activity Monitor? Activity Monitor has always seemed powerful and well-designed to me.

- No global shortcut key to launch Activity Monitor. Often when the system freezes you can't quickly launch Activity Monitor either.

- Can't display both CPU and memory in one view, by default

It can be tweaked, but I don't like the extra steps.

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