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Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by thrower123 »

nix23 wrote: post #46
Closi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a logical explanation - that they have a huge team going through answers here and that one of them made a fuck-up.

The logical explanation is: -There are no MS Employees there (but professional Call/Text Centers) -MS gives a *it about your opinion (as every big IT Company) -But MS wants you to feel that your part of the family (inclusive developers developers!!)

Microsoft has always had the likes of Accenture or HCL moderating their forums and feedback sites.

You're better off shouting into the void than expecting to get anything useful out of those channels.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by cjbgkagh »

Former MSFTy, don’t bother wasting your time giving feedback. Nobody cares, those that cared left. Microsoft has a weird culture, very top down, very passive aggressive between departments. For a brief while I would diligently prepare bugs for the dog food software. I would even walk over to visit people responsible for it and chat about it. Even for software where ‘zero bugs’ was important they’d just delete a whole bunch of bugs and see if any bounce (come back). Eventually people get sick of refilling so they get to zero bug bounce by exhausting the very people trying to help them.

Enough social media pressure may end up risking a line item in a PMs yearly goals. So that might get looked at.

Even the some of the most backward laggards (e.g. government departments) are sick to death of Microsoft and have long been introducing policies that all new software has to be web only.

Those pointing to Azure as the future should known that they have very aggressive sales who often vastly oversell to customers. Customers aren’t renewing at the same level. Plus I don’t see them being able to compete with Amazon long term. You can only buy Skype for the bundled government customer so many times.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by cjbgkagh »

rjbwork wrote: post #81
premun wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can, but there is just one icon to represent the group of windows of that given app. It's visually hard to tell when there's more than one and impossible to tell how many (there is a little border suggesting there's more). But it gets worse. If you have only 1 window with some app open (browser, terminal..), and this window has two tabs inside, clicking on the taskbar icon representing this window won't bring the…

YIKES! This is literally the one and only setting I change right when I install Windows. I'm glad I found out it's totally unsupported before I went and took the plunge on 11. I guess I'll either skip 11 or wait for the update that fixes some of this jank.

The new design philosophy is ‘more familiar to on those unfamiliar with Windows’ I.e. Apple users. It also means they’re not interested in hearing how it used to work as you’re the exact opposite of who they’re trying to target.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by bob1029 »

rvba wrote: post #59

Combining same files to taskbar is a productivity killer for both technical and non technical people. In many chats when someone presents something on screen I see people struggling to find the proper document when they have few open. Same for people who do "real" work: eg budget with 10 spreadsheets opened, or few word documents... the system hibders ability yo switch between them fast. It feels as if it was designe…

> Why do the program managers even allow to remove such basic functionality?

This is the question that is burning a hole through my brain. At a certain point, Microsoft is going have to admit they are fucking over their internal operations, unless they have some secret copy of non-shit windows that is exclusively used internally...

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by dEnigma »

TheChaplain wrote: post #96
dEnigma wrote: post #36

I also spent quite a lot of time during the Windows 10 preview phase, and a while after release, diligently reporting bugs, and voting on well thought-out feature requests. But after noticing that none of these bugs ever got any attention, and how the Feedback Hub was mostly just noise, I started to wonder why I even did free work for a multi-billion dollar company, on my own time. Right around that period I switched…

Just want to say that the time you spend reporting bugs on Linux environments is not in vain but much appreciated. I try to give back to the community and spend time fixing issues people have for the Linux desktops MATE and XFCE, at least a few times a year.

Giving back to the Linux ecosystem is definitely much more enjoyable than reporting Windows bugs. I'm active building packages and reporting/fixing bugs for Solus, as well as contributing some code to a variety of projects from time to time. It's more of a relaxing pastime for me than a chore. Also you mostly are in direct contact with the actual developers of the apps/libraries, which is a huge improvement.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by Kelamir »

pjmlp wrote: post #98
gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever a game I play is released on the Nintendo Switch, I am a little bit happier (eg Diablo 3, Tetris Effect). There’s honestly nothing keeping me in Windows except for video games (which I have less and less time for each year). I’m sort of looking forward to the day I won’t need to play video games on Windows and just be happy with a MacBook and a Linux workstation.

Sure, because Nintendo is such a great example of openness towards FOSS communities.

Is it sarcasm, or they are really open to FOSS communities, pjmlp? Tone deaf reader here.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by zalebz »

snarfy wrote: post #74
pid-1 wrote: post #17

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I distro hop with my home laptops and use Windows at $JOB I've decided to install Windows 11 preview around June 2021 and have been using it ever since, so I could eventually help my coworkers, validate our workflows etc... I am curious on why people in HN dislike Win 11 so much. For me the upgrade was basically about minor UI changes, which I got used to in 1-2 weeks. I am a sysadmin / cloud whatever and it broke no…

Shell extensions are hidden under an additional click. Shell extensions have been a part of windows since at least windows 95. Right click -> "Open with 7-Zip" is no longer an option. Now it's right click -> more options -> "Open with 7-Zip". It's stupid.

Fortunately, there is a registry setting to fix this nonsense.

Unfortunately, I'm a side-taskbar user and there is no equivalent registry fix. I had to pay for a 3rd party tool.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by phkahler »

dEnigma wrote: post #105
TheChaplain wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just want to say that the time you spend reporting bugs on Linux environments is not in vain but much appreciated. I try to give back to the community and spend time fixing issues people have for the Linux desktops MATE and XFCE, at least a few times a year.

Giving back to the Linux ecosystem is definitely much more enjoyable than reporting Windows bugs. I'm active building packages and reporting/fixing bugs for Solus, as well as contributing some code to a variety of projects from time to time. It's more of a relaxing pastime for me than a chore. Also you mostly are in direct contact with the actual developers of the apps/libraries, which is a huge improvement.

>> It's more of a relaxing pastime for me than a chore.

This is how a lot of software should be developed. Time to reflect and think about how to make things better. Not some weird money and authority driven scheme.

Re: Shenanigans on Microsoft Feedback Hub

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Post by arbitrage »

bradwood wrote: post #88

Why do people, especially developers, give Microsoft the time of day with this? Life is to short to give a shit about them, their crappy software, and their bad moderation policies? Vote with your wallet and get the fuck off Windows and all the attendant bullshit that comes with it as soon as possible.

My $JOB (>10,000 employees) mandates use of MS Office. I can't just vote with my wallet ... I never gave them money in the first place.
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