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Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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This isn't really creativity is it? I like to call stuff like this statistical copying, and indeed, the linked Wikipedia article on GANs says: > Given a training set, this technique learns to generate new data with the same statistics as the training set. There isn't a creative process here nor any creative introspection going on. While the technical results are impressive, this article does not address creativity ev…

What makes you think human creativity is anything more than statistical modelling? What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? Objections like yours are usually a sneaky way of implying that human consciousness breaks free of the physical world, cartesian dualism hidden within people's arguments. "It cannot be creative because it's only bits/cogs/linear algebra/etc/etc." Well describe to me the way i…

> What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate?

This is no less shallow reasoning. The question of whether the academic field of statistical modelling already contains the necessary ideas to produce strong AI is not decided, and won't be unless/until somebody makes a strong AI. People have different intuitions about what the answer will be and until it can be determined empirically I suggest treating them as what they are: intuitions.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

#105
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Why do stuff like this never come down from the web? I'd pay for a program I could download and use with my own image files.

While our model is not public, there are good resources online for playing with your own images! Like this one by fast.ai! https://docs.fast.ai/vision.gan.html

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Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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What makes you think human creativity is anything more than statistical modelling? What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? Objections like yours are usually a sneaky way of implying that human consciousness breaks free of the physical world, cartesian dualism hidden within people's arguments. "It cannot be creative because it's only bits/cogs/linear algebra/etc/etc." Well describe to me the way i…

> What else can it be, based as it is in a physical substrate? This is no less shallow reasoning. The question of whether the academic field of statistical modelling already contains the necessary ideas to produce strong AI is not decided, and won't be unless/until somebody makes a strong AI. People have different intuitions about what the answer will be and until it can be determined empirically I suggest treating t…

Sure, but I see no reason to not treat things like GPT-3 and TWDNE as evidence. If it looks like a creativity, and quacks like a creativity, then we should at least entertain the notion that we have a small artistic process on our hands.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

#107

I can’t wait for this technology to come to video. Imagine a future where people can compile written scripts into Hollywood quality movies.

It's already begun https://twitter.com/somnai_dreams/status/1477411531037937664...

I wonder what will happen when somebody combines a GAN with a feature recognizing network like the Tesla cars use, so it can use its own extrapolated map of the surroundings to stabilize its output as the camera moves around.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Naïvely I thought Waifu generator was just “some guy having a laugh” fine-tuning a model off of hugging face, but reading through the comments here, it is obviously a much, much bigger enterprise. Can you talk a little about team size, work process, funding and revenue stream? I think the effort required for such an undertaking is vastly underestimated by readers.

Right now it's a small team of 6 people, and we have a bit of funding + compute credits to train models. There's a bit of revenue from some past projects and AI-consulting, but we're mostly betting big on our new AI-powerd mobile title Arrowmancer[1]. > I think the effort required for such an undertaking is vastly underestimated by readers. Haha for sure. Hosting a real-time ML model for people to do sub 1-second inf…

That seems like a nice project that you're working on, definitely more high effort than some other attempts at generated art (procedurally or otherwise).

I can't help but to feel that this would be a better fit for the fad of NFTs as well, as opposed to ugly monkeys or other asset flips that were pretty obvious cash grabs.

Either way, good luck!

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

#109
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The explainer video about gans is top-notch! Excited for Arrowmancer!

For the author: there's a small typo "Discrimniator" instead of "Discriminator" in the video at 1:11 One thing I was confused by: the video says the discriminator "AI" is trained to detect true vs. generated results, with the hope the generator becomes good enough to fool the discriminator. But why is the discriminator useful, then? Couldn't you just tell generator "AI" whether the result it produced was true or not?…

If you think about how humans draw things, there's a repeated process of "create content" to "inspect for issues" back to "create corrections", "inspect for issues" etc. It seems that generation and criticism are two rather distinct skills, which is why GANs, generative-adversarial networks that contain both a "generator" and a "critic" network, end up making fewer mistakes and learning distant correlations better.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Hey HN, one of the team members here! I hope you all enjoy playing with the new and improved generator! We've been hard at work improving the model quality since the last time the site was posted[1] As both a professional fantasy illustrator & software engineer, I find the concept of AI creativity so fascinating. On one hand, I know that mathematically AI only can hallucinate images that fit within the distribution o…

The quality and style is mindblowing! What data did you train?

The first iteration of our model was built off of this amazing public dataset:

https://www.gwern.net/Danbooru2020

Though now we have made our own :)

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