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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by jahnu »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

One of the best ways for those of us in the democratic West to combat this is to not tolerate when our own governments promote false narratives. This displays the virtues of our imperfect system better than anything else, imo.

Don't tolerate lies, hypocrisy, or sophistry from our leaders even if they are nominally on 'our side'.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by teekert »

jaclaz wrote: post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

Indeed I interpret this as “they were going to extract much more data than needed”, but it could just be fear.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

thesuitonym wrote: post #98
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

We have the same problem in the US. Certain "Freedom loving" sects applaud military intervention, increased police presence, spying on citizens, and the death of any protester, peaceful or otherwise.

That seems like a very, very, broad brush.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by vesinisa »

jaclaz wrote: post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

Can't help seeing the irony that the censored document is a declaration by the publisher about how strongly they are committed to freedom of expression in international context..

CORRECTION: As other have pointed out, the publisher is actually the student newspaper, which is independent from Purdue University itself.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by tapoxi »

bubblethink wrote: post #88
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU. Bad assumption. Maybe an unpopular fact, but many sites simply block EU access to avoid potential legal pitfalls of navigating foreign laws. Getting the site compliant would require review from legal teams and work from (likely contracted) web developers, which is almost certainly not in the budget for a side site li…

This is a completely backwards way of looking at it. If you don't have the budget, create a static website and throw it behind github pages or s3 or whatever. An entire university with a school of computer science cannot figure out some standard way of doing this ?

This publication is independent and not run by the school.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by api »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

America was like this during the run-up to the Iraq war. The last iteration of "cancel culture" was when anyone questioning the war was shouted down as un-patriotic. Search for the Dixie Chicks, a country group who spoke out against the war, and read about what happened to them.

One of the things I've learned in my years on this planet is that propaganda works. It works very very well. That's why governments, corporations, and special interests spend so much money on it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by oolonthegreat »

to me it is kinda embarrassing that Purdue administration only learned it from a news source. ofc I'm not saying they shouldve monitored students' online chatter etc, but if a group of your students actively harrass a student and you learn it by reading the news there's something wrong there.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by throwaway894345 »

gorgoiler wrote: post #76

> 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons A touch over dramatic, verging on smug given that it’s a nerd in-joke. (If you didn’t know, this HTTP status code is a tongue in cheek reference to the dystopian sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 where information is outlawed.) I could elaborate but unfortunately due to our safety and security policies I am unable to comment further. Your wellbeing is my number one priority.

Hah, this is funny. I didn’t put that together, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by tapoxi »

jaclaz wrote: post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

This website is an independent publication about Purdue, not Purdue itself.

If you're small and running ads, I'm pretty sure you don't want to risk dealing with the significant legal pitfalls of GDPR. They EU isn't your audience, and lawyers that confirm you're in compliance (or not) are expensive.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by toxik »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #93
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” ~ George Orwell, 1984

Whenever you think that you’re on the outside looking in, seeing the world for what it is while others seem blind, you should reconsider your perspective.

The Chinese people is not some herd of sheep without mental faculties. I wince when I see quotes like these spoken about a people of literal billions.

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