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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by jmuguy »

miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

I use “regular” Firefox for personal stuff and the developer edition for work. After trying a lot of approaches for that separation, it’s what’s worked best for me. Also the developer edition has a cool/different icon

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #79
RealityVoid wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, what more can they do with it? Is that the worst scenario? Inequal pricing? Not really a _new_ ideea, and I doubt that make a large enough impact to make me care.

No, that is absolutely not the worst scenario. People are being refused jobs and treated as criminal suspects based on their location profile. Insurance rates are being increased based on these profiles. Real estate agents and auto dealerships are starting to use this data in their negotiations with you.

> Insurance rates are being increased based on these profiles

Let's be honest here, rich people get better insurance rates. Not because of some nefarious scheme to impoverish the poor, but because they claim less (which is the primary driver of insurance cost).

Additionally, many (if not all) insurance companies use things like your home address as a factor in pricing, which again benefits people living in rich(er) areas.

Firstly, I don't think that your web data would be particularly predictive for insurance, without substantial modelling/dimensionality reduction and secondly, such modelling/DR is gonna be a very difficult sell to regulators, who typically demand a fully explained model for premium calculation.

Secondly, much of this is illegal in the EU, you should probably elect representatives who'll ban this for you.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by bravetraveler »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #88
miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

What exactly prevents you from using Firefox profiles? They are working fine, for me at least. I can't see a reason for Firefox devs to be ashamed.

Similarly confused, I use profiles heavily every day

It may be due to my workflow; I simply hit a key combination to either open my personal profile or the one for work, for example.

Nothing fancy... The -P option for Firefox along with the usual key bindings for my window manager

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by WA9ACE »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #93
vmception wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they don’t, they manually merge code from upstream if they like it. Since Brave doesnt like it they wont merge it.

If Google makes enough changes that eventually makes it impossible to merge upstream code while maintaining compatibility with the old APIs, then Brave and everyone else will either be stuck with old and unpatched Chromium versions or they'll have to waste resources to keep things working. Not everyone has the resources to maintain their own Chromium fork and it's not easy to keep up with Google, Microsoft, Samsung,…

They already de-google the entire codebase. You can see which parts are removed here https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-... and they keep up quite well.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by tomohawk »

miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

firefox -P [profile name] -no-remote

EDIT: or, to bring up the profile manager:

firefox -P -no-remote

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by londons_explore »

sva_ wrote: post #30
dawnerd wrote: post #18

How about posting what we’re losing for those out of the loop. That Reddit link is pretty useless.

From what I gather, this "Manifestv3" will change the permission system of browser extensions. Extensions won't be able to inject themselves into any website anymore, hence adblockers, which do this, won't function anymore. This may not be completely accurate, but I think is the gist of it. Maybe someone can correct me. The Chrome devs claim that this is to enhance user security, but I have my doubts about that.

Except the extension can still do loads of evil things... It's a bit like banning one type of gun, and saying "see, gun violence is now solved".

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#107

Post by whimsicalism »

imbnwa wrote: post #42

FYI Brave Browser doesn't intend on deprecating Manifest v2 and the blocking version of the webRequest API[0]. A discussion has even started on whether to stand up their own extension marketplace[1] [0] https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-... [1] https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15187

Ugh, guess it's time to switch back to Brave.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by gpvos »

Flankk wrote: post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

In principle I don't mind ads, but I do mind the cross-domain tracking. If sites served ads from their own domains, I'd keep them. I consider it up to web site owners to figure out how to make money from their site if that's what they want to do. Until they and the ad providers come up with an acceptable and practical way of doing that, I am willing to look at their content as long as they're willing to serve it to me.

Then there are also the ads that are annoying: those with moving parts or sound. I will always block those.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by whimsicalism »

beervirus wrote: post #6

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

I used Firefox for months. It is noticeably slower than Chrome on macOS
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