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I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by elcomet »

jrockway wrote: post #48
MivLives wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's explained it's pretty much for the same reason the OP did it. It's possible to prove it works, especially when you're releasing a video each day. Youtube at this point is about optimizing clicks. People like Mr.Beast generally know their video title and thumbnail before they even start production on the content.

Unconvinced. LTT has 1 or 2 good videos for every 30 videos they release. Maybe the face helps people click the bad videos, but the good videos stand for themselves and it's likely that he would be successful without playing the game. (His all time most popular video doesn't have a thumbnail of him making a weird face. It's his most popular video of all time because his guest was exceedingly entertaining.) (Also, I d…

Unfortunately they do A/B testing on the same video to confirm this.

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Post by idontwantthis »

rym_ wrote: post #7

I get so frustrated with the idiotic thumbnails on youtube video these days. I am sure it's all optimized for the maximum number of clicks/views but if I see a still that looks the way it does at the bottom of this page I generally just don't watch it on principle.

I recommend an extension called ClickBaitRemover. Changes thumbnails to be a frame from the video and regularized capitalization.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

CyberRabbi wrote: post #88
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. Sorry, I don't believe profit motive alone should ever be acceptable justification for making the world a worse place. You might argue that stupid faces and clickbait titles don't really make the world a worse place, and if that's the case we'll just h…

This guy makes free high quality content for random strangers online to enjoy and learn from and you’re unironically accusing him of making the world a worse place? Spend 1 week doing the work of making free content for strangers online and then you can get on your soapbox about YouTube thumbnails. Until then you just sound like a parasite.

Yes, I am. It's only a tiny bit worse mind you, but it all adds up.

Just because you make something and give it away doesn't entitle you to a pass for making the world a worse place in the process. People make systemd for free and get endless shit about the ways it makes the world worse, google produces chrome for free and gets endless shit about the ways it makes the world worse, etc.

Besides, lets be clear here: if the goal is to produce and give away videos they don't need to optimize for generating clicks, and therefore ad revenue, do they?

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Post by _zoltan_ »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #80
opheliate wrote: post #39

Really sad to see so many people dismiss this just based on the YouTube thumbnail at the bottom. Jeff consistently makes very high quality content, I really enjoyed his series on Kubernetes, I would urge you to look past any preconceptions there. The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. It’s un…

> The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. Sorry, I don't believe profit motive alone should ever be acceptable justification for making the world a worse place. You might argue that stupid faces and clickbait titles don't really make the world a worse place, and if that's the case we'll just h…

what a lot of bull. he is doing exactly the opposite: sharing knowledge and making the world a better place!

arguing over stupid faces just for the sake of arguing, however, absolutely does not add anything to the world...

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #104
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. Sorry, I don't believe profit motive alone should ever be acceptable justification for making the world a worse place. You might argue that stupid faces and clickbait titles don't really make the world a worse place, and if that's the case we'll just h…

what a lot of bull. he is doing exactly the opposite: sharing knowledge and making the world a better place! arguing over stupid faces just for the sake of arguing, however, absolutely does not add anything to the world...

You can share knowledge without optimizing for increased clicks leading to ad revenue. Let us not kid ourselves about the altruism of the youtuber.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by Bluecobra »

geerlingguy wrote: post #27
dragontamer wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard drives can easily saturate a 1Gbps link. And RAIDed hard drives can saturate 5Gbps or even 10Gbps with enough parallelism. I'm not sure if any NAS is cost-effective when you use SSDs, aside from maybe a cost-effective SSD cache (Maybe a $100 to $250 1TB L2ARC cache, depending on the speed of the SSD you get).

Indeed, the board in the video (Radxa Taco, hopefully for sale next month) would actually make a decent 1 Gbps NAS (with a 2nd 2.5G port if you want to also use it as a router or have higher network storage speed for short bursts) for HDDs. Most of the average NAS HDDs top out at speeds that are within the Pi's performance realm, though software RAID and ZFS both bottleneck a bit, so you can't get a full 2.5 Gbps (2.…

Interesting, I have an old HP MicroServer laying around gathering dust. It only has a dual core AMD Turion (like Intel Atom) and 4Gb of memory. It should be easy to retrofit this with a Pi, in fact there's an empty 5.25" drive bay on this case.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by _zoltan_ »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #21
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #3

The headline buries the lede: It’s a NAS build that uses expensive SSDs. I’m looking forward to the day that I can retire my spinning-disk NAS, but at $700 per 8TB SSD I think it’s going to be a while before they’re cheap enough that I want to take that leap. Like this article concludes: Using a Raspberry Pi for an SSD NAS is a huge waste. There are plenty of low-power Mini-ITX or smaller x86 boards with substantiall…

> I’m looking forward to the day that I can retire my spinning-disk NAS, but at $700 per 8TB SSD I think it’s going to be a while before they’re cheap enough that I want to take that leap. It's not just the price - SSDs are not a good choice for long-term storage, especially if they're not powered up continuously.

I've heard about the same thing, but I have yet to see evidence of this. I have an old SSD on the shelf that I may be power up every 1.5 years or so, and so far, it works fine. It's around 8 years old.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by _zoltan_ »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #105
_zoltan_ wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what a lot of bull. he is doing exactly the opposite: sharing knowledge and making the world a better place! arguing over stupid faces just for the sake of arguing, however, absolutely does not add anything to the world...

You can share knowledge without optimizing for increased clicks leading to ad revenue. Let us not kid ourselves about the altruism of the youtuber.

I do not kid myself, I said nowhere he is altruistic. I'd do the same thing if I were him - increase my income.

If somebody tells me now that I get a 20-30% salary bump right now and I need to make a silly face once a day I ask back: where do I sign?

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Post by elwell »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #80
opheliate wrote: post #39

Really sad to see so many people dismiss this just based on the YouTube thumbnail at the bottom. Jeff consistently makes very high quality content, I really enjoyed his series on Kubernetes, I would urge you to look past any preconceptions there. The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. It’s un…

> The fact is, if YouTube makes up a sizeable portion of your income, and that can increase by a factor of 10% just by making a dumb face, you’d be silly not to do so. Sorry, I don't believe profit motive alone should ever be acceptable justification for making the world a worse place. You might argue that stupid faces and clickbait titles don't really make the world a worse place, and if that's the case we'll just h…

If his 'stupid face' [sic] made the world 1x10^-9 percent worse, your negative comment made the world 1x10^-8 percent worse.
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