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Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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They just lost me as an user. Used it as primary browser for a couple of years, but adding this NFT scam stuff and crypto has forced me off of it. sigh

What are you switching to? The alternatives is a much worse browser Firefox, a botnet Google Chrome, or some weird chinese spy Opera. What are you going to use?

There is Vivaldi. I used for my work daily driver and it been working well for me. One thing I like about it that it didn't have the bloat from Chrome and Brave.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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post #33

They just lost me as an user. Used it as primary browser for a couple of years, but adding this NFT scam stuff and crypto has forced me off of it. sigh

Agreed. I recently tried to adopt Brave on iOS. There in-app marketing messages are cringe-worthy[1] and there isn't a way to opt-out as far as I have found. This seems unethical, as I consider these messages as unwanted advertisements for MLM crypto projects. Brave removes paid ads from the internet, but subjects me to in-app advertisements for pyramid schemes (Sorry, I mean ground floor crypto investment opportunit…

> There in-app marketing messages are cringe-worthy[1] and there isn't a way to opt-out

Aren't ads opt in?

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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> there isn't a way to opt-out as far as I have found. Navigate to: brave://settings/wallet Set Default cyrptocurrency wallet to None, and set Show Brave Wallet icon on toolbar to off

hn readers not knowing how to navigate settings, sigh...

I am aware of about:kitchensink and related config from the mozilla codebase. I've used about:config on desktop many, many times.

Blaming the user isn't the best path to ADUs. Brave's settings have many options and I wasn't sure which one would disable in-app advertisements. I think it is "Brave Rewards".

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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Some are and they are overfitting those cases to an entire technology. It's understandable to see that nuance get lost on Twitter, but disappointing to see on a tech forum. It's like discounting email because it enables nigerian prince scams.

No, NFTs seem like a scam on the order of "buying a star". https://www.wired.com/2001/12/buy-a-star-but-its-not-yours/ But good news! You can also get your star registered on the blockchain now. Whether that's any better than the ISR's legacy offering (a certificate and an entry in their own ledger) is up to you. https://nftevening.com/star-naming-registry-gets-an-nft-twis... Really, both products are just selling a…

I view NFT as a technology that might one day find its particular true-niche use-case years from now...especially NFT's whose data are encoded into the blockchain itself. [edit] It might be the case, like with deep learning, that something that doesn't seem useful becomes so when it can be applied at scale. If on-chain NFT's can practically start containing large sized data buckets without resorting to external links,

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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post #33

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Agreed. I recently tried to adopt Brave on iOS. There in-app marketing messages are cringe-worthy[1] and there isn't a way to opt-out as far as I have found. This seems unethical, as I consider these messages as unwanted advertisements for MLM crypto projects. Brave removes paid ads from the internet, but subjects me to in-app advertisements for pyramid schemes (Sorry, I mean ground floor crypto investment opportunit…

> There in-app marketing messages are cringe-worthy[1] and there isn't a way to opt-out Aren't ads opt in?

This is a "push notification" style in-app message that I am calling an "Ad". I don't know what the correct terminology is within Brave's chrome.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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post #89
post #48

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> there isn't a way to opt-out as far as I have found. Navigate to: brave://settings/wallet Set Default cyrptocurrency wallet to None, and set Show Brave Wallet icon on toolbar to off

hn readers not knowing how to navigate settings, sigh...

Workflow isn’t the same on iOS, which is what GP was talking about.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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> there isn't a way to opt-out as far as I have found. Navigate to: brave://settings/wallet Set Default cyrptocurrency wallet to None, and set Show Brave Wallet icon on toolbar to off

Thank you for your help. 1) I'm probably dumb, but on iOS putting brave://settings/wallet into the address bar puts me into Brave search results. No leading or trailing spaces. 2) This setting will disable in-app marketing messages? I'm interested in disabling the "Brave Rewards" in app notifications.

> I'm interested in disabling the "Brave Rewards" in app notifications.

That's in settings, too... but aren't those opt-in? I could have sworn they were when I set up my profile for the first time. I'm going to re-install in a clean VM and see what their first-time user UX is like these days.

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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Sure, they can be, but they aren't. "NFT" has become synonymous with "selling a jpeg", and that's what the big NFT marketplaces are doing. That's where all the money is. Nobody would care about NFTs if all they were being used for was as "an authorization scheme in dapps". Like, imagine if JWTs were 99% part of an MLM scheme and 1% used for authentication. People would be skeptical!

> Nobody would care about NFTs if all they were being used for was as "an authorization scheme in dapps". Tell that to Uniswap: https://uniswap.org/blog/uniswap-v3/

By "nobody" I meant "nobody not deeply invested in the technical guts of how Uniswap works". In the same way nobody really cares about JWTs, people care about the stuff they enable. Solving problems inside the crypto ecosystem isn't per se useful or important unless the actual thing it's enabling (in this case Uniswap) is important. Which, okay, maybe it is. But NFTs are a technical detail.

It's when people started hyping up NFTs as their own thing that stuff got weird and stupid. Like, phone numbers are useful, but vanity phone numbers definitely aren't solving any problems other than proving you have one:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2018/02/13/feat...

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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Brave was all about crypto from the beginning: Basic Attention Token

What they don't tell you about BAT is that you cannot extract or trade the ERC20 without first going through their authorized 3rd-party custodial wallet service with KYC and your "earnings" don't accrue in your native Brave wallet either.

That killed it for me. What’s the point of a wallet if I have to do a shuffle to use it? Blockchain is hard enough

Re: Brave Wallet: a secure crypto wallet, built natively in a web3 browser

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post #87

They just lost me as an user. Used it as primary browser for a couple of years, but adding this NFT scam stuff and crypto has forced me off of it. sigh

Interesting. Were you not aware that Brave has always been the "crypto" browser? Having tight crypto integration has been one of the core features used to distinguish themselves. So this is not really new nor surprising to me.

As an early user of brave, it did not always have crypto functionality. That was bolted on later.
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