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CIA and Gen Z

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#101

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Seems like we should stop treating SSN user id like a password

It’s an ID treated as a private key. We desperately need a better system.

I think you mean password. Private keys do not work that way.

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> A National ID, that is designed to more strongly prove ID and also designed to be used as a secure form of Authentication for Authorization services... I can share that here in Denmark we have a system exactly like that, and have for more than a decade. It's called "NemID" (lit: EasyID), soon to be changed to "MitId" (lit: MyID). While there definitely are some problems with the current implementation, having a 2-f…

Great! We can tie in your Twitter account too so if you say something out of line or dangerous you can be banned from all of society.

I'm not even gonna entertain the implications brought here. I will however utilize this opportunity to say that every citizen has the right to interact with the government on equal footing. Elderly people without internet- and computer-expertise have, as before the technology explosion, access to "citizen services" that'll help them with everything. Including helping pay non-government bills if need be.

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Social media could be a perfect cover: An Instagram "model" who travels the world hooking up with rich guys who will pay for her trips. Am I being sarcastic or serious?

But seen another way: Hookers are, in my mind, the epitome of suspects of spying… I suppose a third of the world is driven by pillow discussions, whether actual spying, just influence, mere affinity, or rape accusations to get rid of a political person.

This is the plot of the first season of House of Cards and how Rachel Brosnahan got her first major television role before being cast as Mrs. Maisel.

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> One would think it’s basically impossible to get millennials and zoomers into covert jobs. The youngest of this bunch of young people have spent their entire lives online, some since their parents blasted out their first ultrasound picture as a pregnancy announcement, before they’d even gained sentience. > how exactly are you supposed to achieve this level of anonymity when you’ve flung untold reams of identifiable…

Can we cool it with the agephobic comments? Cia is going to have trouble finding enough such ppl who also meet agency requirements because they hire a lot of ppl and need more than 10 of them.

The fact that boomers are boomers is not agephobic.

Young people do not behave like old people, or vice versa.

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Actual socialists had secret police. Every government has intelligence services. What do you think being a socialist means and what does that have to do with working for the CIA?

Most folks throwing around "socialist" in a positive light in the US mean it like "social democracy", as in the Nordics or various European social-democratic parties. The socialist-socialists—having known a few—usually just say Marxist or communist to describe their position, in my experience. "Socialist" only means "like Venezuela or East Germany" when a Republican is saying it, not when people self-describe as soci…

No matter what definition OP chooses, Socialists still have intelligence services. Its also not the 1950's, the CIA isn't going to care if they vote for Bernie, assuming that's OP's definition of socialism.

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#106

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Just moved to Norway and it's been very eye-opening seeing how easy BankID (their equivalent) makes most things in life. Only problem has been that I'm 5 months in and still don't have my ID number so I'm locked out of most aspects of life still (can't even open a bank account).

Yeah, this is a recurring theme for immigrants in these countries (esp here in Sweden where the immigration agency has been backstopped since the big 2015 refugee influx). You can get a temporary "coordination ID" that healthcare,etc can use to register your journals but Bank's doesn't always let you create accounts without personal ID numbers (and specifically no BankID's so you're locked out of all the modern digit…

A friend of mine has moved to Sweden for a one year graduate degree. I'm not sure if he's allowed to get one of these IDs as it's a short-term stay. In the meantime he's in a kind of limbo where it's difficult to do anything

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I hope it's changed; you're not supposed to do that. (TM) But the military operates in its own little world in some respects.

It should be fine to broadcast SSN, the blame really falls to credit reporting companies and lenders treating it as a private and secure identifier. SSN's weren't designed to be secure, and after decades of leaks they certainly aren't now. Lenders have attempted to brand losses based on this as "identity theft" (putting onus on the person) rather than just "we failed to properly authenticate before handing this perso…

When banks do KYC, they use: Name, address, DOB, and SSN. SSN is the "least" public of those. If all 4 are publicly available, it is trivial to impersonate you and launder money with your ID.

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" When you pull up to the CIA headquarters in Langley, you have to shout your Social Security number out the window into a speaker, like when you’re ordering fries at a drive-through. Much like the Union that the Agency was formed to protect, the system, it seems, could be more perfect. " True story: I went to a job interview on Redstone Arsenal which meant I needed to get a vehicle pass. The recruiter sent me an ema…

"Way back in the '90s, I had a friend of Indian descent whose sister worked for the FBI. She said her sister was always getting pestered about moving into investigative field work because no one would suspect she was undercover." I used to work in D.C. in/around DoD and Middle Eastern affairs. Not the Lords work, but in a geographic area and domain that people just associate with spooks. Even now, as a software engin…

I have some relatives who spent a year or so in Russia. The husband is REALLY good with a Russian-style hand gun. And they often talk fondly of their time in Russia. (They also have slight political leanings toward Russia).

I like to pretend they are KGB sleeper agents. I know they aren't, but I like to pretend it is true.

Re: CIA and Gen Z

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" When you pull up to the CIA headquarters in Langley, you have to shout your Social Security number out the window into a speaker, like when you’re ordering fries at a drive-through. Much like the Union that the Agency was formed to protect, the system, it seems, could be more perfect. " True story: I went to a job interview on Redstone Arsenal which meant I needed to get a vehicle pass. The recruiter sent me an ema…

No need to fear, the only people who have unfettered access to your email communications is the United States Government.

Serious point.

Sending an email is like sending a post card.

Anyone that moves that email can read (and store, amd share) the contents. Each ISP, router, telephone operator, whatever.

Emails are NOT secure.

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#110

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Just moved to Norway and it's been very eye-opening seeing how easy BankID (their equivalent) makes most things in life. Only problem has been that I'm 5 months in and still don't have my ID number so I'm locked out of most aspects of life still (can't even open a bank account).

Yeah, this is a recurring theme for immigrants in these countries (esp here in Sweden where the immigration agency has been backstopped since the big 2015 refugee influx). You can get a temporary "coordination ID" that healthcare,etc can use to register your journals but Bank's doesn't always let you create accounts without personal ID numbers (and specifically no BankID's so you're locked out of all the modern digit…

I’m in Norway in a family reunification visa, so I don’t get the temporary number. They just count on my wife being able to take care of everything. Which she generally can, but I’m still out of luck getting a cell number, or seeing a public doctor, etc. Still happy and thankful to be here, but it’s frustrating. I can’t even order anything online from Norwegian stores.
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