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Re: Goodbye, MIT

#101

Post by iso1337 »

ksec wrote: post #88
g42gregory wrote: post #87

I see so many Asian parents, many first generation immigrants to the United States, working several jobs, working their tales off to put their kids through good schools. Spending time with their kids, disciplining their kids, which is not easy and not pleasant for the parents. Marriages are hard for everyone, with disagreements, fights, bitterness, sacrifices. And yet, all these Asian parents stay together and endure…

Sorry am I missing some context / recent news here? I reread the blog / letter and I dont see how that relate to Asian parents.

“Wokeness” treats Asians as white adjacent and often dismisses the real issues they face because of an idea that other people suffer more. Eg see efforts to use BIPOC instead of POC. Those communities do suffer more, but that doesn’t invalidate the issues other people face.

The Asian community is kind of split on this. A lot of the older generations think like the poster but some younger second generation Asians are more “woke”.

Also see active efforts in California and in universities to reduce “overrepresentation” of Asians. In some ways it feels like you’re being punished for being too successful.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#102

Post by davemp »

ksec wrote: post #88
g42gregory wrote: post #87

I see so many Asian parents, many first generation immigrants to the United States, working several jobs, working their tales off to put their kids through good schools. Spending time with their kids, disciplining their kids, which is not easy and not pleasant for the parents. Marriages are hard for everyone, with disagreements, fights, bitterness, sacrifices. And yet, all these Asian parents stay together and endure…

Sorry am I missing some context / recent news here? I reread the blog / letter and I dont see how that relate to Asian parents.

Affirmative action quotas have historically put Asian minorities at a significant disadvantage in college admissions.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#103

Post by 0des »

CodeGlitch wrote: post #90
0des wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting take, can you elaborate on that?

Not parent poster but I would guess that there's now hundreds of thousands of students going through institutions like MIT who are being indoctrinated, who will be coming to a work force near you real soon. They will be demanding (and I've seen this already first hand) for everyone to fall into line with the wokeness. Spineless leaders will listen to them and fear them, and as we have seen already, do as they demand.

"Crises precipitate change" - Deltron3030

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#104

Post by GoodJokes »

The merit system that the Chicago professor suffers is really laughable and speaks more to his general critical thinking than anything. ACTUAL critical race theory explores how institutions, especially in America, do have the original sin of benefitting certain people over another. So, this whole judgement of merit and fairness has to come from somewhere. An institution. How people are evaluated isn’t straight forward, and straightforward evaluations are rife with embedded racism, sexism, classism, etc.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#105

Post by [deleted] »

roenxi wrote: post #47
doomrobo wrote: post #18

> MIT’s leadership apparently took umbrage at his statement of these simple facts: that George Floyd “had not lived a virtuous life” (based on his multiple criminal convictions) Surely the authors know that "statement of facts" has the ability to completely alter the interpretation of the rest of the content. Key questions are: why is this fact relevant in this context, what is the author conveying by bringing this i…

A core purpose of a church is to identify and evaluate: 1. What a virtuous life is. 2. How to live one. 3. What examples exist of people who have lived one. 4. How practically achievable a virtuous life is. The chaplain is doing his job here. He is supposed to identify that Floyd hasn't lived a virtuous life, but he is still part of a greater community and that a virtuous person would help Floyd live the best life he…

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Re: Goodbye, MIT

#106

Post by [deleted] »

blueboo wrote: post #94
prirun wrote: post #76

I have never understood why there is an expectation to treat everyone equally when people are very unequal, from their birth circumstances, which obviously they can't control, to their behavior as adults, which people do have control over. People don't treat me like Michael Jordon because, guess what? I cannot do the things he does. It would be rather silly for me to get all in a huff because I don't get the treatmen…

Here’s what you’ve never understood: the principle of judging folks accomplishments while taking into account their opportunities. No one thinks everyone is the same. But not all SAT scores are created equal.

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Re: Goodbye, MIT

#107

Post by CodeGlitch »

0des wrote: post #103
CodeGlitch wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not parent poster but I would guess that there's now hundreds of thousands of students going through institutions like MIT who are being indoctrinated, who will be coming to a work force near you real soon. They will be demanding (and I've seen this already first hand) for everyone to fall into line with the wokeness. Spineless leaders will listen to them and fear them, and as we have seen already, do as they demand.

"Crises precipitate change" - Deltron3030

You'll have to educate me on who Deltron3030 are and what "Crises precipitate change" means. Is there something in the song's lyrics that is relevant here?

(I'm not into music)

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#108

Post by ksec »

iso1337 wrote: post #101
ksec wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry am I missing some context / recent news here? I reread the blog / letter and I dont see how that relate to Asian parents.

“Wokeness” treats Asians as white adjacent and often dismisses the real issues they face because of an idea that other people suffer more. Eg see efforts to use BIPOC instead of POC. Those communities do suffer more, but that doesn’t invalidate the issues other people face. The Asian community is kind of split on this. A lot of the older generations think like the poster but some younger second generation Asians are…

Thank You this make lots more sense.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#109

Post by 0des »

CodeGlitch wrote: post #107
0des wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Crises precipitate change" - Deltron3030

You'll have to educate me on who Deltron3030 are and what "Crises precipitate change" means. Is there something in the song's lyrics that is relevant here? (I'm not into music)

Before every great change there is a crescendo of the status quo. The lyric is from a future dystopian song that is unrelated, in the concrete sense. The quote, however, in my own interpretation the quote expresses that when things reach a fever pitch, when things become unpalatable for general society, the pendulum will swing back in the other direction.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#110

Post by CodeGlitch »

0des wrote: post #109
CodeGlitch wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to educate me on who Deltron3030 are and what "Crises precipitate change" means. Is there something in the song's lyrics that is relevant here? (I'm not into music)

Before every great change there is a crescendo of the status quo. The lyric is from a future dystopian song that is unrelated, in the concrete sense. The quote, however, in my own interpretation the quote expresses that when things reach a fever pitch, when things become unpalatable for general society, the pendulum will swing back in the other direction.

Thanks for responding, and hope you're right.
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