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Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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I've had a the smallest cloud instance for a few years now, it is in fact really good and fast. 1vcpu with 2GB ram is plenty for a full stack web application + a database. IO is also very good with stable ~8000 iops write performance for 4k sync. Compared to Azure VM instances, Hetzner offers like 100x more performance for each $ spent.

How's the development velocity compared to Azure?

Can your App scale across regions?

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Yes! And their support is amazing too. Doing business with Hetzner somehow always feels very different to e.g. Amazon, or the other tech giants. I wonder if it may be related to the general business mentality (Germany vs USA), and not only the company size.

I had a terrible experience with DHL, we used them for US domestic small parcel shipments before the business unit was shut down for losing money, around 2008 I think. Towards the end they started systematic over charging. They would rate an 8oz package as 20lbs. The bills were 5-10x what they should have been. The service was never very good, they just had a good sales team. I hesitate to generalize from specifics t…

DHL was a US company until 2002, maybe that makes a difference

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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And it would have stayed that way if only nerds would have used it. Now it's used by regular people, too. And our lives are much richer because regular people use it, too. But that means that real life rules now apply.

People ruin everything. Eternal whenever is upon us.

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Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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I don't know how to feel about this. One the one hand this is good for sites that needs to be more global. But I mainly build stuff for Europe and I don't want anything to do with USA when storing personal data. I hope they keep the seperation between Europe and US clear.

If you setup the server in the EU why would anyone in US have access to it?

Rackspace, Indymedia, 2004. Ancient precedent by now.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Great deal, I use OVH Starter VPS that is a fraction cheaper at $3.50 (same config) For testing and personal use I found both offers to be top-notches and only DC location could be a decision factor here

Ovh comes with a 250mb connection, hetzner comes with 2gb/s

For my purposes 250mbs is more than enough as it's just a testing )no prod) VPS

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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I've been working on bringing the managed services (which is still somewhat lacking though Hetzner has LoadBalancers) now to places like Hetzner and OVH. Right now I'm planning on starting with Redis/Memcached and S3.

If this seems like something you'd be interested in I'd love to hear from you (email in bio). If you don't have the time to write an email but maybe take a most-questions optional survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfyhBThpC2mYubNPQaK...

I plan on getting a small landing page up to collect people who want to be first to try it out tonight/tomorrow at the latest.

I'm most excited about Hetzner going US because I think they're going to really shake up the stagnant (high) prices for dedicated compute in the US.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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For me, Hetzner, Starlink, and Tailscale are 2014-era startups: stellar products that turn you into a zealous militant for the companies. This is a very exciting development. I am very much looking forward to their dedicated offering extending to the US.

How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…

I don't call Tailscale "VPN Provider". Technically it's VPN but now "VPN Provider" means it provides "anonymous" "safe" internet connectivity.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Oh wow, that's really amazing. Thanks for the info! So they shipped a 40ft container full of servers via ship to the US? That really surprises me, I always thought this kind of equipment was done via air cargo only.

Air Freight is extremely expensive for this purpose.

It is, but these components also probably cost upwards of a million dollars and are very fragile. Esp with current shipping delays (not sure how the situation is on the route EU-US), I'm surprised they waited the extra few weeks to save a few thousand $.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Now that is a cool database. I'm surprised it's public.

so if i didn't misunderstood that page they've had one 40 foot container delivered with nineteen "server hardware" pieces, likely racks? thats less than i would've expected, but it makes sense considering that they probably don't have any big customers lined up. it will be interesting to see how fast they'll grow.

Maybe they only shipped some components they don't want to have assembled there or that are more expensive in the US. So theoretically they could've just shipped network equipment or storage servers (for block volumes) while other servers were assembled in the US. I can't really imagine that it's cheaper for them to assemble complete racks in Germany and ship them over, assembly cost by a third party in the US is likely cheaper and definitely much faster.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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I changed my country on that page to US but all the prices still seem to be in euros? It would be great if they let me see more detail about the instance types without having to sign up for an account. I'm not sure if I want to try it out, and I'm lazy, so I probably just won't now.

Yes, prices are still in euros. Please see: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/#what-about... I understand about being a bit lazy when it comes to trying a new company. However, if you change your mind any you become more interested, you can check around and see if you can find anyone with a referral code. (We have a referral program: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/faq/#is-there-a-refer... ) --K…

In case anyone is interested in trying it out: https://hetzner.cloud/?ref=GxNGm9jZSUZP

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