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Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by solarkraft »

Bayart wrote: post #81
panick21_ wrote: post #61

I really love the company and use Pop OS. The only thing I would really love for them to do is focus on ZFS out of box experience. Having the default encryption go Native ZFS encryption would be really great.

Excuse me for asking, but why would you use ZFS on a laptop/desktop ? That's the target for PopOS.

ZFS has a reputation as being rock-solid and having a ton of features. Both XFS and BTRFS replicate parts of it, but never really the whole thing.

... but I don’t think it should be the focus of a consumer focused distro since that’s quite an advanced functionality.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by patwolf »

I installed Pop OS on my Thinkpad after an OS update on Ubuntu started causing battery drain during suspend.

It did fix the battery drain issue. It also had good hybrid graphics support out of the box. I tried their tiling manager for a bit but switched back to i3.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by jmrm »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #77
JeremyMorgan wrote: post #8

Pop is my new favorite. I started using it at the urging of friends, and love it. I've written a couple reviews of it on my blog, as it's been my "daily driver" for my laptop for nearly a year. I've been a Linux user since 1995/96, and a die hard Arch user for about 10 years. So why would I want a Linux distro that's super hands-off and easy to use? It's incredibly stable. "Set it and forget it". If I want a bleeding…

>I've written a couple reviews Isn't it just Ubuntu with slightly (basically introduces tiling) different shell? What is there to review?

There are some desktop and environment changes, but Pop also have a really good power management module that no other distro has, and good compatibility aroung different GPUs combination, and that is a big deal in laptops.

I had some problem in the past with a laptop with Intel GPU + AMD GPU interchangeable graphics in other distros while with Pop is ready to use after installing. AFAIK, those who had Nvidia Optimus and similar Nvidia technologies had a lot more of troubles outside Pop.

I haven't used Ubuntu in ages, so I don't know how those things are actually managed. Probably they aren't far behind.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by sgtnasty »

ligerzer0 wrote: post #53

A bit of a sidenote: PopOS came installed on my system76 laptop. But that's not important here. What intrigues me more is that the laptop had terrible battery life. And I mean terrible by even 2010 standards. And I bought it in 2018. It would last less than an hour on average, and less than 40 minutes if I was doing something demanding. I use past term "had" as although I am still using this laptop today, somehow aft…

Have you tried using TLP? https://linrunner.de/tlp/

There is also "Auto CPUfreq", but I have not tried it yet. Automatic CPU speed & power optimizer for Linux: https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/auto-cpufreq

Re: Pop OS – System76

#105

Post by helmholtz »

badRNG wrote: post #74
q-base wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any good reasons to select Pop over Ubuntu?

Here's a few: - Great initial repo list - Togglable tiling manager - Excellent shortcuts for everything that improve my workflow Sure, I could get all of this stuff and more working on any other distro, but this stuff works out of the box, and is stable.

Is there any way to use Pop without the gnome backend? Gnome and Pop both ship with Nautilus, and apparently don't work well without it, but Nautilus doesn't have type-ahead navigation. This is when you are in a directory and start typing the first few letters of the file you want to get to. In Windows Explorer, that will just lead to the cursor skipping ahead, whereas in Gnome, this starts a search for the file. It's absolutely appalling behaviour, and the developers are obstinate to a fault at changing this, despite outcry.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by helmholtz »

sgtnasty wrote: post #100
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu has had the proprietary nvidia driver on the iso and selected out of the box for a few releases now.

NVIDIA Optimus support - out of the box with a UI to switch graphics cards. The only other bistro I have seen to support it is Ubuntu MATE. All other distros require installation outside of the default package managers.

"bistro" and "MATE" make for an interesting typo.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#107

Post by pmontra »

solarkraft wrote: post #95
k1rcher wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re on an Intel CPU Linux loves screen tearing. Create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf And add this: Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "intel" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection Might fix your issues.

Woah woah woah woah. Why would anyone without an Nvidia card be using X? You have to go out of your way to use this antiquated and deprecated technology with Gnome nowadays and screen tearing is specifically one of its problems.

Does Wayland finally support screensharing apps, both native and web? That's what is keeping me on X11 plus an NVIDIA card.

Re: Pop OS – System76

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Post by RistrettoMike »

nsonha wrote: post #26
perihelions wrote: post #5

If you're interested in the tiling features of Pop OS, they're also available as a standalone extension for GNOME Shell. Very little friction to test them out (if you're already running GNOME). https://github.com/pop-os/shell https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-shell/

I just want to open all windows floating and being able to manually snap windows in to a 3 columns grid, can this do it?

This sounds similar to some of my workflow when using Windows. PowerToys & fancyzones are really neat in that they let you pre-define specific "Snap zones" that you can then shift+drag windows on top of to resize them.

I tried Gtile on Fedora but found it wanting to emulate more of Linux's auto-tiling interfaces, which isn't what I want when using floating windows some of the time.

The Pop-Shell extension mentioned above was the best floating + tiling experience I'd used so far. Floating windows work like normal until you hit super+y where they'll begin to auto-tile & try to find sane spacing for the different windows onscreen.

You can cycle through those windows (and I believe resize them too) with keyboard commands, but also resize and drag around them with the mouse like normal. You can even drag them on top of each other to create "tabbed" windows behind one another with little selectors at the top.

I used this recently on a 12.5" (1080p) screen to reference Firefox on one half, while having my terminal, file browser, and text editor all "tabbed" on top of each other in the other half. Made it really smooth to fit all that into a small screen in a way that felt sane & easy to multitask with. I'd highly recommend trying that extension out and seeing if it can fill your needs, even if it's not 100% trying to fill Fancyzone's role.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#110

Post by PolCPP »

solarkraft wrote: post #95
k1rcher wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re on an Intel CPU Linux loves screen tearing. Create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf And add this: Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "intel" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection Might fix your issues.

Woah woah woah woah. Why would anyone without an Nvidia card be using X? You have to go out of your way to use this antiquated and deprecated technology with Gnome nowadays and screen tearing is specifically one of its problems.

If it's on a laptop: Fractional scaling. On wayland you can get some blurry apps (iirc xwayland apps) and on xps 13" (unless its the oled probably with it's weird resolution) integer scaling isn't good enough tbh
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