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Re: Back to EU

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I can't see it happening but I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a Norway type deal (which was promised by many of the Brexiteers).

But that'll enable EU people to go live and work in the UK with no restrictions, that's way worse than what the UK had before.

>that's way worse than what the UK had before

But better than what we have now.

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Although maybe Cronofy is not yet well-known, Adam Bird was also founder of Esendex which became pretty huge (Commify that is now known as)

Your logic is that a government would want a backdoor in this app because another app was successful? Just because the same founder? That's a lot of hopeful backdoors - poor return on investment for the government. I've worked on bigger projects than that without backdoors. "Pretty huge" is relative I guess - I certainly wouldn't describe it as that. I seriously doubt that app had a government backdoor, and neither w…

Ah, all I meant was just that since Esendex got pretty huge (e:g IIRC they did bulk texting for the Obama campaign), given that its the same founder, perhaps Cronofy could end up big too. I guess my angle was simply, this is potentially a large company, his previous one was (and apparently a decent place to work according to people I know) and its a great shame if such a good tech business is driven to moving to a different country . BTW it wasn't me that downvoted you, it was a fair argument :)

Re: Back to EU

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Interestingly the Dutch have been very keen to capture Tech companies (or at least make it an attractive place for employees). There is a low flat tax rate (30% iirc) for some years (was 5 when I last checked) if you're working in an "in-demand" sector, and tech is one of those sectors. This is somewhat controversial from what I understand, not all of the Dutch like it, and I understand why: it's not really very fair…

>not all of the Dutch like it, and I understand why: it's not really very fair to give foreigners a tax break and not your own people.

Some people in my country fail to realize that in this case the Dutch state did not invest in the education of these people. I suspect the math works out.

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German/Dutch "Angst" is English "fear", the English word "angst" is more "existential dread".

https://www.etymonline.com/word/angst

Indeed, from a specialized use in psychology of German Angst, just as Semaphor wrote

Re: Back to EU

#105
As a Brit I'm utterly disgusted by what's happened to this country under years of corrupt Tory misrule, and yes I'm also including NuLab during the Blair years but what can I do? I have consistently voted for pro EU parties but my voice seems to be drowned out by the baying racist xenophobic majority in this country. In the end it might be time to emigrate elsewhere.

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Why posted on the personal blog instead of the company site?

Because I wanted to express my genuinely personal opinion about the situation and the company blog isn't really the place for that. Appreciate that as CEO these lines are blurred but I endeavoured to show some understanding of boundaries by publishing in this way. We will be providing more formal documentation about how customers can transact with us through the new entity and take advantage of the new oversight.

As a Brit I'm glad you have taken these steps. Our political UK leaders are useless.

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Step 0: start driving on the right side of the road Step 1: adopt the euro Step 2: improve education for all ages and groups about misinformation, propaganda, etc. to reduce the chances of a bus driving around london from making you change your minds again in 4 years Step 3: apply to enter as an equal into the EU, instead of trying to cut some half assed deal for half the rights and half the benefits

Step -1: Metric. Everywhere - no more miles!

That's got my vote for sure

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> any US company can implement a more stringent data policy beyond the scope of legal remit within the country of operations Theoretically, yes, you are right. But some companies are just going to say, oh, you are based in the US, let's look for a different vendor. It's not even necessarily about the GDPR. For example, US companies tend to send really shitty invoices. There's barely any info on the invoice, some don'…

> If I buy services from the EU, I can assume that they comply with the GDPR, and I know that I'll get a proper invoice with VAT, and I won't have trouble with the tax authorities. VAT and invoices are part of GDPR? Financial regulations yes - sure, of which the UK is pretty darn good upon. But if a company invoices you with bad invoices then you can just refuse them and ask the correct and resubmit - even in the USA…

> VAT and invoices are part of GDPR?

No they are not. VAT and invoices is just something else that's also easier with EU vendors.

> But if a company invoices you with bad invoices then you can just refuse them and ask the correct and resubmit - even in the USA

That only works well if you hire an individual contractor or a very small company who depends on your payment.

SaaS companies don't give a fuck if you are happy with their invoice. High profile example: Github won't even tell you if the invoice is with VAT or not -- it just says "price includes VAT if applicable" on their invoice. Support won't tell you what it means. How is my accountant supposed to book that? Fortunately my Github bill isn't big, so I probably won't get in trouble over incorrectly declared VAT for the Github invoice.

If there's a EU vendor, it's always going to be my first pick, because I just don't want to waste time accounting for funny US invoices.

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If the company were to breach GDPR, which regulator would enforce it? If UK law would require backdoors in a way that conflicts with GDPR, how could they remain compliant?

Backdoors for a calendar app no one's heard of? No offence, but bigger fish to fry. And why would the company breach GDPR if it's making such a fuss about sticking to it?

Having access to the calendar of e.g. the Airbus management would be very useful for industrial espionage.

Snowed proved that the US used backdoors in Microsoft products to access calendar entries snd emails to give Boeing an edge during negotiations.

Re: Back to EU

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> If I buy services from the EU, I can assume that they comply with the GDPR, and I know that I'll get a proper invoice with VAT, and I won't have trouble with the tax authorities. VAT and invoices are part of GDPR? Financial regulations yes - sure, of which the UK is pretty darn good upon. But if a company invoices you with bad invoices then you can just refuse them and ask the correct and resubmit - even in the USA…

> VAT and invoices are part of GDPR? No they are not. VAT and invoices is just something else that's also easier with EU vendors. > But if a company invoices you with bad invoices then you can just refuse them and ask the correct and resubmit - even in the USA That only works well if you hire an individual contractor or a very small company who depends on your payment. SaaS companies don't give a fuck if you are happ…

Thank you, I grew up in the UK so the whole US invoices quirks and issues you mention are literal new to me and appreciate the perspective and experience. I do know that the Inland Revenue in the UK and TAX laws have always mandated VAT numbers have to be upon the invoice and other such stipulations. So do wonder how they handle UK invoicing with regards to VAT, but not had any dealing with them.

Did deal with few US companies in the 90's, Sprint and telco's and never an issue there, but then different times and corporate structure with those.

That said EU countries still vary and https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vat-invoicing-rules_en kinda shows how not having the VAT number can still be valid and legal as well.

Yet you still get country nuances within EU members.

In the UK, VAT invoices is kinda the rule of registered for VAT and the rules https://www.gov.uk/guidance/record-keeping-for-vat-notice-70...

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