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Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by 0des »

Kranar wrote: post #25
funOtter wrote: post #19

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I'm interested: why join this when you can simply donate 10% to charities without joining this?

Sense of community. I used to have the belief that being an anonymous donor, giving money to charities quietly, was the right and noble thing to do. Then there was the Ice Bucket Challenge and I realized that an individual donation is nothing compared to the multiplying effect that comes from having others within your community and network join in, and that requires finding creative ways of signaling your donations t…

giving as a group activity feels weird as if without an audience these folks might just not be interested.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by 0des »

exochrono wrote: post #63
wyldfire wrote: post #53

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This looks great but did ZSF opt-in or are you including them here in the hopes they'd take donations from you? Likely the latter? > https://support.every.org/hc/en-us/articles/360059840294-Why... Also, skimming the terms: > If circumstances make Giver to that particular Nonprofit impossible or inappropriate (such as if the selected Nonprofit ceases operations or loses its tax-exempt status), we will attempt to conta…

Great question - we have more info on how we disburse at https://www.every.org/disbursements - but in short, ZSF hasn't claimed their profile and connected a bank account, so we'd disburse via our partner NFG. We treat crypto donations like those made via bank account, meaning we cover the 2.25% fee that NFG charges, so (100% of your crypto donation - broker fee (<=1%)) goes to ZSF.

Hey just a heads up, you said 1 hour ago "you can donate via their profile here" and then 30 mins ago Andy comments and says he's making an account as we speak..

Did you just solicit donations without them even being signed up? If so, that feels weird, and I'd appreciate at least (as I cant speak for others) if you didn't do that without some heavy disclaimer text making clear that they've shown no interest yet. I love the concept of what your service does, but you can get users in other more honest ways than this.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by slimsag »

wyldfire wrote: post #76
AndyKelley wrote: post #69

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Wow, thank you for sharing this. I was not aware of Every.org until today. I checked out the platform just now and am delighted. I love that it is a 501(c)(3) and that it is crystal clear with the promise to remain that way. We desperately needed something like this. I also love that you will mail checks to organizations even if they do not sign up for electronic disbursement. However I will sign up ZSF now of course…

Ok sounds like I can go ahead because you will accept from every.org and you do not plan to publish an address to accept donations directly? I'll match other HNers donations of as much as $100 to a total of an additional $1000. Not sure how to substantiate every.org donations but maybe I'll take HNers at their word. EDIT: scoreboard as of 22:20 UTC: $400 out of $1000 to be matched: easymuffin, slimsag, tav, _hl_. Bec…

Sure, why not: here's my $100 https://i.imgur.com/XwhkmzQ.png

And just to make it interesting, I'll also match donations up to $100 each to a total of an additional $500 - starting now for the next 48 hours. :)

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by einpoklum »

yboris wrote: post #16

Consider joining Giving What We Can - an international community of people who have pledged to give at least 10% of their income to causes that they think are most effective at eliminating what they think are the world's biggest problems. (I'm a proud member for 10 years). https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/

Does it count if you work part-time for pay, and write FOSS the rest of your time? I mean, you're contributing over 10% of your potential-employment time instead of over 10% of the higher salary of a full-timer.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by hijodelsol »

3pt14159 wrote: post #23
AndyKelley wrote: post #10

2021 update: * The Zig Software Foundation now exists * My total income including ZSF Salary, GitHub Sponsors, Patreon is now about 4000 USD per month. Legally, my ZSF salary is 160K per year, but I have been consistently donating it back to the org since frankly we just don't have that much revenue at this point in time, and I've been prioritizing getting that money to other Zig contributors. * The $150/month to Ric…

Sorry, I'm not American so this may be a dumb question, but why set your salary to $160k instead of what it actually is? Does it have to do with US tax law or non-profit org law?

I don't know if this applies to the States but at least in some European countries if you ever move to another country you are taxed for what you would have been expected to pay in taxes based on the profit the company made in the last years.

Paying yourself a high salary (as long as it's reasonable, so as not to arouse suspicion of hidden profit distributions) allows the business entity to not make any profit on paper and therefore allows you to move to another country without having to pay this "exit tax".

Disclaimer: This is my understanding of the situation, I'm neither a lawyer nor a tax professional and this is not financial advice.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by einpoklum »

dralley wrote: post #48
nomdep wrote: post #30

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My ignorance is showing but, why Zig deserve to be funded?

Even disregarding the language entirely, the toolchain innovations that have come out of Zig are pretty exciting and worth the price of admission. I hope Clang and Rustc learn a few tricks from them.

Can you link to an elaboration about this point specifically?

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by AndyKelley »

0des wrote: post #102
exochrono wrote: post #63

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Great question - we have more info on how we disburse at https://www.every.org/disbursements - but in short, ZSF hasn't claimed their profile and connected a bank account, so we'd disburse via our partner NFG. We treat crypto donations like those made via bank account, meaning we cover the 2.25% fee that NFG charges, so (100% of your crypto donation - broker fee (<=1%)) goes to ZSF.

Hey just a heads up, you said 1 hour ago "you can donate via their profile here" and then 30 mins ago Andy comments and says he's making an account as we speak.. Did you just solicit donations without them even being signed up? If so, that feels weird, and I'd appreciate at least (as I cant speak for others) if you didn't do that without some heavy disclaimer text making clear that they've shown no interest yet. I lo…

How it works according to their website is that they will mail a check to the registered address of the charity. That's actually an amazing service - even charities which are not aware of Every.org still benefit from its existence.

I'm honestly really impressed.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by 0des »

int_19h wrote: post #67
nomdep wrote: post #30

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My ignorance is showing but, why Zig deserve to be funded?

Because a "better C" is long overdue. (And no, Rust is not it. It's a great language, but its design philosophy is very different.) Ironically, today, Zig is also one of the best C/C++ compilers around, chiefly because it "just works", even for advanced scenarios such as cross-compilers: https://andrewkelley.me/post/zig-cc-powerful-drop-in-replace... (Yes, of course, the actual compiler is Clang. But Zig wraps it in…

> Because a "better C" is long overdue.

I owe you 1 beer, this is so true. If I can just get something that treats a string politely I'll be over the moon. If that's Zig, it has earned my contribution, simple as that.

Re: Why I'm donating $150/month (10% of my income) to the musl Libc project (2019)

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Post by wyldfire »

0des wrote: post #102
exochrono wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great question - we have more info on how we disburse at https://www.every.org/disbursements - but in short, ZSF hasn't claimed their profile and connected a bank account, so we'd disburse via our partner NFG. We treat crypto donations like those made via bank account, meaning we cover the 2.25% fee that NFG charges, so (100% of your crypto donation - broker fee (<=1%)) goes to ZSF.

Hey just a heads up, you said 1 hour ago "you can donate via their profile here" and then 30 mins ago Andy comments and says he's making an account as we speak.. Did you just solicit donations without them even being signed up? If so, that feels weird, and I'd appreciate at least (as I cant speak for others) if you didn't do that without some heavy disclaimer text making clear that they've shown no interest yet. I lo…

Their terms are pretty clear that it's how they work. I don't know that it's dishonest but it is slightly tricky IMO. It seemed like it was the case when I clicked on it and it would be nicer if it were obvious before donating.

But bottom line they'd have gotten the money delivered to ZSF anyways.

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