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why rush a piece?
Cloudflare R2 is topical right now - that was the motivation. Not saying it was the right strategy to do so (clearly not given the mistake).
You even have a section of the article called "Hacker News Comment Responses"! Then you failed to mention the OP comment you're replying to:
That is very bad form and untrustworthy behaviour.
I'm glad the article pointed out Q1 as the next opportunity
Personally I find Backblaze B2 more compelling. ... Ok, after writing that, I realized that I should probably look up R2's offering first. And then my jaw hit the floor at "free egress bandwidth". Free egress bandwidth ? Yes please. I will instantly convert. Then I was worried about price per GB. $0.015/GB is incredibly competitive. Good lord, where do I get early access to this thing? I'd transition all our infra to…
According to their press release it says: > That's why Cloudflare plans to eliminate egress fees, deliver object storage that is at least 10% cheaper than S3, and make infrequent access completely free for customers A few elements of concern. It says they "plan to", so we don't know if this is near term or some moonshot type of goal. It also states earlier in the press release that the free egress frees are offered v…
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Zero egress costs for assets is a very strong reason for people to move. For public assets, it's a complete no-brainer.
I kinda think people will use the S3 proxy feature of R2 for that, which doesn’t really move customers over.
Makes zero sense to keep public assets on S3 in this case. Only when you need ACL integration or glacier would S3 make sense.
How is Cloudflare gonna coup up the price? These numbers are too good to be true (Sorry I am naive in how egress pricing works).
Similarly they can use slow storage for most files and use their existing caching solutions for storing frequently accessed files.
They'll probably lose some money on customers who use lots of bandwidth, and make lots of money on everyone else.
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Cloudflare R2 is topical right now - that was the motivation. Not saying it was the right strategy to do so (clearly not given the mistake).
Did you just silently edit out that part and not put some text noting your previous mistake? You even have a section of the article called "Hacker News Comment Responses"! Then you failed to mention the OP comment you're replying to: That is very bad form and untrustworthy behaviour.
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According to their press release it says: > That's why Cloudflare plans to eliminate egress fees, deliver object storage that is at least 10% cheaper than S3, and make infrequent access completely free for customers A few elements of concern. It says they "plan to", so we don't know if this is near term or some moonshot type of goal. It also states earlier in the press release that the free egress frees are offered v…
Hey, R2 PM here - there's no question that the product will have 0 egress charges, regardless of destination. For archival use-cases, you do still pay us for data storage. We're referring to not charging for operations for infrequent access - we'll likely drop the stored data charge down too, eventually, but the current pricing is complex enough.
I suppose my only skepticism is "but how fast can I egress?" -- if the bandwidth is 100x slower than GCP, it might dampen my enthusiasm a little bit. But honestly I'd still take a 100x slowdown if it means I can do long term archival without paying $200 just to download the data, soooo....
Anyway, cheers, and thanks for doing impactful work!
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We will see in practice how it is. As the article suggested, there are often caveats to "unlimited" and honestly I don't even think they have written unlimited anywhere :)
>As the article suggested, there are often caveats to "unlimited" and honestly I don't even think they have written unlimited anywhere :) CF already talked about egress pricing here https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/ i would say that when they talk unlimited, they actually mean it.
The migration bit alone is going to be enough to motivate PMs and devs to switch. The free egress seems insane from a business perspective but if Cloudflare wants to do it them I'm all for it.
Very cool.