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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

dylan604 wrote: post #43
plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

Both can be true. Youtube is successful because it hosts so many videos. Downloading a few favourites doesn't impact their business model, but it allows me to save those few videos that I think don't deserve to be lost.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by dylan604 »

derefr wrote: post #90
dylan604 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

> If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong. You can film 8K video on a smartphone these days… but only about 15 minutes of it before you fill up the phone’s internal storage. If you don’t have a computer with a big hard drive to dump the video off on, you’re basically stuck shoving the video out to “the cloud” and then delet…

Comparing an object store provider to YouTube is just pointless. It's not even close to being the same thing. If you cannot understand this difference, then we really cannot have a discussion.

If you are shooting 8K video and don't know what to do with it, that is on you. Just because you can does not mean you should.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ZetaZero wrote: post #64
DelightOne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be automatic.

I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

How about the ones you liked?

I was thinking about this a few months ago and wish there was some sort of background app that could keep and eye on my YT accounts likes and archive them.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

derefr wrote: post #90
dylan604 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

> If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong. You can film 8K video on a smartphone these days… but only about 15 minutes of it before you fill up the phone’s internal storage. If you don’t have a computer with a big hard drive to dump the video off on, you’re basically stuck shoving the video out to “the cloud” and then delet…

When you can get 10TB [ EDIT: 4TB ] external drives for around $100, this is totally absurd pathway to take towards "preserving your own culture".

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by dylan604 »

SuoDuanDao wrote: post #101
dylan604 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

Both can be true. Youtube is successful because it hosts so many videos. Downloading a few favourites doesn't impact their business model, but it allows me to save those few videos that I think don't deserve to be lost.

You as an end viewer is not the topic though. I'm talking about the content creators that lose their content when YT makes a decision against them, but they no longer have a copy locally. For them to delete their only local copy because it's on YT just because they don't have the space, then that is 100% on them. I don't care if they are 15 years old and don't have the funds for massive drive space. That's just part of being in the video content creation business. Losing content as a creator is a growing pain lesson that everyone eventually learns. Its very similar to not having backups in general. It's a lesson best learned before it happens, but rarely learned until after.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by la_oveja »

dylan604 wrote: post #43
plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce, If you are producing videos at such a rate that you as the producer cannot actually save the content, then maybe you're doing it wrong . If you are producing content for the exclusive use/distribution by a private company that is known to have draconian automated decision making processes, you have to expect tha…

This is deeply ignorant of the actual reality. Most content creator are not technically savvy nor have the ability to setup any kind of distribution service. Also, you're missing the whole point of video streaming, which is becoming huge.

I've know youtubers that did upload videos as a hobby, but couldn't even afford to keep them locally stored in their hard drives after a few years. Makes the videos less valuable? In no way.

I sincerely don't understand any of your points.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by dexen »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #23
jordemort wrote: post #5

At this point, Google is pretty much the fae folk of tech: immensely powerful beings with inscrutable motives and mercurial dispositions, inclined to rain ruin on your head at the slightest provocation or even just on a whim. Best to leave a saucer of milk out for them at night, and studiously avoid the areas they control if you value your anything.

Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

Unlocked smartphones, where the user can easily install third party apps, including browser with ad blocker.

Emphasis on easily - if it ever becomes straightforward, without going through scary settings menu, Google will be quite scared.

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