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Renting 'is unaffordable to minimum wage workers in every state,' study finds

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Post by kortilla »

ac29 wrote: post #96
kortilla wrote: post #63

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> For many people, of all ages, there aren't starter jobs - they're the only attainable jobs. Citation? I have family members that weren’t very ambitious and they work in these jobs. However, they don’t make minimum wage because nearly every company offers some raises for people who just consistently show up for 6 months+ straight. In order to be stuck at minimum you have to additionally have stability issues or issu…

> I have family members that weren’t very ambitious and they work in these jobs. However, they don’t make minimum wage because nearly every company offers some raises for people who just consistently show up for 6 months+ straight. But what kind of raises? Starting at minimum wage and grinding out a 25c/hr raise each year for a decade is still going to leave you in poverty. No one starts at $8/hr and is making $35/hr…

Do you know what “minimum wage” means?

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Post by kortilla »

kylebyproxy wrote: post #69
kortilla wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For many people, of all ages, there aren't starter jobs - they're the only attainable jobs. Citation? I have family members that weren’t very ambitious and they work in these jobs. However, they don’t make minimum wage because nearly every company offers some raises for people who just consistently show up for 6 months+ straight. In order to be stuck at minimum you have to additionally have stability issues or issu…

> nearly every company offers some raises I've worked at least a dozen jobs. Received exactly 2 raises: one for $0.25, the other $0.33. > In order to be stuck at minimum you have to additionally have stability issues Or just not be able to afford a bachelor's degree

You don’t need a bachelor’s degree to become a shift manager.

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Post by joeberon »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #99
joeberon wrote: post #98

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Okay, cool, I agree that trying to live in this world can suck. Not sure how that's relevant to this discussion though.

Well, maybe if we actually did something about crime, life wouldn’t have to suck for so many people.

What has that got to do with me saying I can afford to spend that much on rent?

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Post by eurasiantiger »

joeberon wrote: post #103
eurasiantiger wrote: post #99

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Well, maybe if we actually did something about crime, life wouldn’t have to suck for so many people.

What has that got to do with me saying I can afford to spend that much on rent?

Do you really have no problem with the idea that you work 8 hours a day just to pay off mobsters?

Because THAT is literally what is happening. Not hyperbole. Actual mobsters.

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Post by Aeolun »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #104
joeberon wrote: post #103

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What has that got to do with me saying I can afford to spend that much on rent?

Do you really have no problem with the idea that you work 8 hours a day just to pay off mobsters? Because THAT is literally what is happening. Not hyperbole. Actual mobsters.

That is quite literally hyperbole.

The idea that all landlords in Berlin are mobsters is hilarious.

If anyone the goverment is to blame for facilitating it. Can’t blame the people with money that see a way to turn it into much more money (legally).

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Post by joeberon »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #104
joeberon wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What has that got to do with me saying I can afford to spend that much on rent?

Do you really have no problem with the idea that you work 8 hours a day just to pay off mobsters? Because THAT is literally what is happening. Not hyperbole. Actual mobsters.

My life is comfortable and my work is fulfilling in itself. I'm not working _just_ to pay that. Trust me, I don't want to not have to work at all. I am a scientist though so of course for many it is nothing like that; I am in a very privileged position.

I understand that the relationship between landlord and tenant is inherently predatory, I just don't see how exactly this is related to whether or not I can afford it. I think it's predatory whether I can afford it or not, but since you don't seem satisfied by me saying that I assume you only think it's predatory in cases where it cannot be afforded, which honestly is morally deplorable of you.

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Post by eurasiantiger »

Aeolun wrote: post #105
eurasiantiger wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really have no problem with the idea that you work 8 hours a day just to pay off mobsters? Because THAT is literally what is happening. Not hyperbole. Actual mobsters.

That is quite literally hyperbole. The idea that all landlords in Berlin are mobsters is hilarious. If anyone the goverment is to blame for facilitating it. Can’t blame the people with money that see a way to turn it into much more money (legally).

And exactly why did the city just buy thousands of apartments? Who exactly benefited from this?

Re: Renting 'is unaffordable to minimum wage workers in every state,' study finds

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Post by kcplate »

mmarq wrote: post #76
eurasiantiger wrote: post #41

It’s worrying that people can’t afford their own home. That feeling of security cannot be understated: knowing where you can sleep for the next night. Everyone living in a rented apartment is under constant survival stress, with a subconscious fear of joblessness and eviction.

This is only true in places like the UK or, I understand, the US, where renters do not enjoy the same protection they would in other countries. My brother rents a flat in Germany, he can't be evicted (unless he stops paying rent) and rent increases are pre-determined and tied to inflation (ie, the landlord can't ask for a 5% rent increase each year). In Italy contracts have a minimum 4 year duration, during which ren…

> unless he stops paying rent

Which,,,is the reason that probably 99/100 people get evicted in the US. The remaining is generally due to property destruction or neglect of the property specifically counter to the lease agreement.

A landlord not renewing a lease to a tenant at the one of a lease term is not an eviction.

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