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Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by ComputerGuru »

The money quote:

Other delivery companies are continuing to screen applicants, concerned about the insurance and liability implications in the many states where weed use remains illegal. […]

“If one of my drivers crashes and kills someone and tests positive for marijuana, that’s my problem, not Amazon’s,” said one

Amazon is just looking out for Number One and to hell with their so-called “partners.” This isn’t anything new.

If I were an ADA prosecuting such a case, I’d charge Amazon as a co-conspirator.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by batch12 »

outside1234 wrote: post #100

This company is just a nightmare. Seriously, do we really need more folks that smoke pot on the road?

> Seriously, do we really need more folks that smoke pot on the road?

Who cares if they smoke pot when not working. We don't need high/impaired people on the road.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by haswell »

hughrr wrote: post #89
eurasiantiger wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdote is not data.

That’s also bullshit. This went into the stats here. Thus is data.

Since when is asking for data considered bullshit? So far, you’ve only provided anecdotes.

I assume you know what the parent comment meant when talking about “data”.

Don’t get me wrong - no one should drive while impaired, period. But offering anecdotes in lieu of data is generally not helpful.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

#104

Post by TulliusCicero »

outside1234 wrote: post #100

This company is just a nightmare. Seriously, do we really need more folks that smoke pot on the road?

The hell kind of comment is this? Would you ask, "Do we really need more folks who drink beer on the road?"

As long as they're not high/drunk when they're working, what's the issue?

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by abledon »

samstave wrote: post #51
jack_riminton wrote: post #5

Some of the comments are assuming that all those who smoke pot are irresponsible or unable to do a job if they do smoke pot (this includes people who may only smoke at weekends/parties btw)

Some of the smartest people I have worked with smoked pot daily and before work. one is a head of engineering at netflix, another a head of IT at a big firm... some of the highest performers I have ever worked with, and pot was a daily for them.

i think for a small % pot will have a positive impact, but in general there is a reason it is considered a recreational drug. If you put 1000 linux kernel developers in a stadium, do they do better work sober, or if the stadium is hotboxed with some exotic kush. (maybe 5%, 10% see gains... but does the majority receive buffs to their concentration, analytical skills and memory?)

Maybe the question has a different outcome if you're measuring a stadium full of Designers with Adobe Illustrator open, trying to brainstorm how a logo looks?

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

#106

Post by Cederfjard »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #88
phh wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you have it upside-down. It's tobacco and alcohol that have special treatment, not pot. My main guess for that special treatment is merely that tobacco and alcohol were global when we started taking care about global health issues, so we left them, but banned any newcomer

There are plenty of psychoactive substances on the shelves of any major supermarket and most of the stuff is completely unregulated. How is coffee different from tobacco? How is nutmeg or saffron different from drugs? How about artificial flavonoid—xanthine concoctions such as Red Bull?

> How is coffee different from tobacco?

The difference in effect on health is severe, for one? There’s room for more nuance than ”both of these are psychoactive substances”.

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Post by hughrr »

wordsarelies wrote: post #98
hughrr wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am in my late 40s. Most of the proponents are a lot younger. They haven’t seen the impact it has on them until they get older. That’s not bias. As for other points I’m an atheist with zero religious values at all. I have used it myself as well. And I’m in a country in a city where no one gives a crap. I’m about as unbiased as you can get. As for sins, I’m a pretty big fan of them as whole. The issue here is with th…

Do something that alters your baseline consciousness long enough and it becomes your baseline. Doing anything over a long period of time with regularity will change you. You have definitely met pot smokers who have, and do live perfectly normal lives because their baseline is better. You probably have no idea who they are.

My nose says otherwise.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by batch12 »

wordsarelies wrote: post #97
JshWright wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Driving high is still driving impaired. The failure modes may be different, but that doesn't mean someone who is high is safe to drive. I'm not sure what the point of your comment is though, as I don't think anyone is suggesting that these drivers will actually be high while driving. Rather, they are people that use marijuana recreationally and would test positive for THC, disqualifying them from many jobs (despite t…

Driving high is like driving as a grandma. You're hyper vigilant, looking everywhere, your reactions are delayed a little such as that of an 60 year old person, and you're definitely listening to speed "limit" as the maximum, and not as the average.

When high, you are impaired and shouldn't be driving. Period.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by eurasiantiger »

wordsarelies wrote: post #98
hughrr wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am in my late 40s. Most of the proponents are a lot younger. They haven’t seen the impact it has on them until they get older. That’s not bias. As for other points I’m an atheist with zero religious values at all. I have used it myself as well. And I’m in a country in a city where no one gives a crap. I’m about as unbiased as you can get. As for sins, I’m a pretty big fan of them as whole. The issue here is with th…

Do something that alters your baseline consciousness long enough and it becomes your baseline. Doing anything over a long period of time with regularity will change you. You have definitely met pot smokers who have, and do live perfectly normal lives because their baseline is better. You probably have no idea who they are.

It is also very possible for cannabis to be an improvement to the baseline. There are many, many people who could not function in society and work for their living without cannabis, be it due to MS-related spasticity, PTSD-related hypervigilance, ADHD-related need for stimulation, autoimmune-related inflammation, difficult to treat eating disorders such as anorexia and ARFID, or just plain old chronic pain — and about about it not working for pain, it does work for some, why should they be denied?

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Post by kodah »

da_big_ghey wrote: post #35
eurasiantiger wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decades of exposure to intentionally misleading propaganda is difficult to ignore. It becomes a part of the worldview, making it hard to even think outside that box.

Well no, there are serious health risk associated with weed. Maybe alcohol have them too, yes both deserve legality, but this is not to say it is "safe", especially in young.

There are health risks associated with THC:

- the possibility of psychosis or schizophrenia in people 16-35 (https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/resources/Cannabis...)

- the same risk that inhaling any combustible has

- overeating

- cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-con...)

For some people the benefits outweigh the risks, especially when practiced in moderation.

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