Im going to claim original idea that all these other downloders built off ~2006
still get k's of downloads a day even though its been 15yrs since the last update
Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…
But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.
In fact I do pay for yt premium, yet still get these kinds of ads.
So much for that misplaced and invalid attempt at moralizing.
"are they so terrible?" and "what's the alternative?" are not my problem to answer, and I don't even have to agree they are valid questions that someone has to answer.
I do not accept the premise that the only way content can exist is if advertisers pay for it. That's a false dichotomy. There is no such either/or choice.
I will happily live in a world that only has content that was either fully paid for by purchasing copies or subscriptions, or given to the world for free.
You attempted to paint anyone using this software or anyone complaining about the ads as somehow morally lacking. I say, if you don't understand why anyone would give away something for free, and only think of the consumers as ungrateful parasites, then I think that says something worse about you than what you tried to say about anyone else.
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#103[flagged]
Please don't take HN threads on tedious flamewar tangents.
(Also, please don't downvote-bait or whatever that first bit was. Also tedious, and actually against the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html - see the second-from-last...)
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28321103.
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#104> NEW FEATURES > Cookies from browser: Cookies can be automatically extracted from all major web browsers using --cookies-from-browser BROWSER[:PROFILE] Very nice. Having to manually copy cookies to get past login walls is annoying.
As much as I like this feature, it is scary on the other side how easy it is to essentially steal cookies - what yt-dlp can, so can malware.
Why don't OSes have some sort of system-wide secret store linked to an user's account (like the macOS Keychain) and an application's code-signing certificate? That would at least prevent easy file-dump attacks, moving the barrier to "execute something in the browser process context" instead.
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#105>yt-dlp is a youtube-dl fork based on the now inactive youtube-dlc. The main focus of this project is adding new features and patches while also keeping up to date with the original project yt-dlc's last commit was only 4 days ago, from the project owner. What are the advantages of each, and what about other forks out there?
https://github.com/blackjack4494/yt-dlc/commits/master
The previous update was July 25, and the one before that was December 2020.
While the July update dealt with the updater, having 2 days of small changes since December is not very active.
As far as the advantages, there are plenty of comments now outlining them better than I could. For me there are many additional sites that work with yt-dlp that do not work with the other forks. I found myself using this fork more and more instead of youtube-dl due to the additional support, until I've now made it my default. It does have a compat mode so if you use a lot of youtube-dl switches that yt-dlp may of removed or depreciated in the cleanup, they will still usually work if applicable with this fork as well.
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#106haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?
I genuinely hate using YouTube because it's awful. Random pop-ups all over the page. Weird suggestions on the sidebar because I don't have an account and don't want one. Ads that start in the middle of a sentence and play again if you rewind, etc. so you can't actually understand the video you're watching. So I wrote an app that takes a YouTube URL, downloads the video with youtube-dl, and just plays it in a normal OS window. No web browser needed. No junk. It's awesome!
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…
But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.
I'm perfectly fine with businesses that use intrusive ads going out of business - none of this is essential to my well being. The onus is on them to find revenue gathering methods that don't suck, not me.
And before you say "but creators have to make money too" - independent art gets created just fine without capitalistic motives, and I vastly prefer the patreon model, or just paying up front for larger content (documentaries, games, films etc).
(Although in this particular case, I'm pretty fine with the sponsor method with most of the creators I watch on youtube - there's definitely a line where it could get overbearing, but for the most part it's pretty easy to skip if you want and the brand they're shilling still gets shown to you over and over again so the advertisers aren't really losing out).
(Also chiming in with the "I do pay for YouTube premium" gang as well).
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#108If you use youtube-dl and haven't noticed that it hasn't been receiving updates it's worth aliasing youtube-dl with this project
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#109youtube has recently been implementing download speed throttling on some video downloads. See: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326 . Youtube-dl does not yet have a solution for this occasional download speed throttling.
This yt-dlp fork has a workaround (though not a true fix) for the issue: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom...
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it apparent to the sponsor when someone is watching using youtube-dlp versus a regular view? I'd imagine most sponsored segments are negotiated based on subscriber count or view numbers.
I don't believe the view counter gets incremented when using any unofficial front-end/downloader.
It does, it shows up as a "Other YouTube features" for the source.
Though, YouTube seems to do some aggressive deduping here, if I download from 5 different IPs, excluding the IP I'm logged into YouTube's services, I see 5 views. If I download 50 times from one IP, I see one view.