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Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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I clicked this wanting to ensure that AWS continues not knowing who I am. Apparently this person's issue is being too anonymous in the eyes of Bezos...a strange complaint indeed.

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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> My girlfriend bought an iPad for the kids to watch TV. It's shared by a couple of people. She had to log in with her Apple ID to set it up, and now her personal iMessages and emails are on it. It's stupid. Apple considers iPads (and iPhones/Macs) as personal devices. You aren't expected to share an iPad, you're expected to buy an iPad for each user.

Macs are definitely not personal — you can trivially set up multiple user accounts.

You can, but the experience sucks for families. If you want shared access to your family photos or music collection, you kinda need a shared account. But you probably don't want your family members to read all your email, so you need separate accounts. And what if you want to email a photo from the shared account? You end up having to switch accounts all the time, and the experience sucks.

The result is that people just use web apps like Gmail instead of native apps, because it's a lot easier to sign in and out of services.

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…

My son wanted to login to the desktop AirBnB because I wanted a PDF of a receipt, which he couldn't get on mobile. He logged in using his Google account on his phone. On his Windows and Mac laptops, with Chrome and Firefox he got errors. He just couldn't login. We cleared cookies, everything. Rebooted. Nothing would fix it. Of course, to start a chat with aBnB you need to login...

So, I agree. Every service should have separate credentials.

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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Registering AppleID involves phone number checking. In some countries getting one without exposing personal information is not trivial.

Lots of services won’t allow duplicates. For example, you can’t use the same number for account recovery on two different Microsoft accounts. Zoho won’t let you register more than one account with the same number. Etc.. I silo my profiles. I have 4 of them. It’s really hard to do. Everyone encourages you to put all your stuff into a single profile. It’s awful for work life balance and security, but it benefits big te…

Free, reputable password managers are available if you want to separate two different databases. As for work and personal Windows, it's likely that your company covers the licensing cost of their copy.

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For those of us with coupled accounts, is there any way to separate them?

Change the root user email on your AWS account or the Amazon retail address to something different.

That doesn't work for old accounts. Changing your root email address will also change it for the retail account. This is documented behavior by AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/trans...

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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Some of these are legitimate grievances but it seems quite reasonable to have separate accounts for work and play. What I do despise is that my Amazon.com credentials are the same as my Amazon AWS root account credentials. They aren't equals. The services share the name of a rainforest and a very rich CEO but that's about where the similarities end for my part. I'd rather not have to plug in my AWS root account crede…

You can change an AWS account's root account's email address. Even if you don't want to set up a new email account just for your AWS root account, many email providers include additional forwarding addresses as a feature, or use something like the Gmail feature where `me+aws-root-account@gmail.com` gets sent to me@gmail.com`; from AWS's perspective these are completely different email addresses even if Gmail treats t…

Nope. For accounts created before 2017, if you change the root account's email address it changes the Amazon.com retail account's email address as well. This is documented behavior by AWS[0]:

> If your AWS account and Amazon.com retail account share the same login information, updating the email address or password on one of the accounts changes information on the other account.

[0]: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/trans...

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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post #25

It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…

This is one of the things Google actually got right with Android. I can add as many Google accounts to my phone as I want. Anything that needs to be associated with a Google account lets me choose which account to use, and I can selectively decide what gets (and does not get) synced from each account (mail, contacts, photos, store purchases, etc.). Many apps will even let me switch between accounts easily and seamlessly.

Re: AWS doesn’t know who I am

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post #63

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> I need to log in with my personal credentials to download software from the Mac App store. Do you though? Why not just setup a "apps@ .com" and create a new account? > and now her personal iMessages and emails are on it. It's stupid. So just turn these services off? They aren't mandatory.

Registering AppleID involves phone number checking. In some countries getting one without exposing personal information is not trivial.

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