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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#101

Post by wizzwizz4 »

sauravmitra wrote: post #56
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p This is the strongest, most credible privacy guarantee, imo. Ask your lawyer to make you as ridiculously vulnerable as possible, perhaps with a small “good faith error” clause. When you get big, you will turn evil. Bind the company now, and it will remain trustworthy for many more years.

Honestly, agree 100%. How do you communicate that to users though? The trust is hard to gain.

You don't need to communicate it to users. If they ask, and you can truthfully reply:

> We are contractually forbidden from doing this, and if we do, you're entitled to [insert compensation plan that would cripple the company, without a private equity-style (or other) takeover being able to game it for profit] – on top of any legal obligations.

then they'll probably sing your praises… if they believe you. So maybe publish a blog post or something about how you bullet-proofed the commitment (with lots of details)? Added bonus: I'd learn how you managed it, because it's too hard a legal problem for my amateur mind to solve.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#102

Post by sauravmitra »

yashasolutions wrote: post #93

It looks awesome! My main 2 concerns would be : 1. Performance If it is slow, or a memory hog, like many browser before, that would definitely be a major issue. 2. Privacy It's 2021, claiming privacy won't cut it anymore. We know the drill. Do you have have a way to ensure you have no visibility of what people browse? Because else, I am sure you'd become an interesting target for various groups who need or want this…

Thanks!

Performance: We use WebKit for the actual pages, so similar to Safari in speed and memory usage (much better than Chrome), and our UX should be pretty fast (we did a performance update right before this launch!)

Privacy: The app obviously knows what pages are on it since it's loading them. Our server doesn't have any of that data unless you choose to upload it for cloud syncing. That data is encrypted so shouldn't be trivial to access (though we want to move over to iCloud to avoid this problem). What do you think?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#103

Post by atttali »

agd wrote: post #100

Hey, just want to say good luck and keep at it. Lots of skeptical comments here, but that's always the case for different ideas. Stay positive :)

Thank you, really appreciate the kind words :)

Would love to hear your thoughts on the product if you give it a shot!

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#105

Post by sauravmitra »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #101
sauravmitra wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, agree 100%. How do you communicate that to users though? The trust is hard to gain.

You don't need to communicate it to users. If they ask, and you can truthfully reply: > We are contractually forbidden from doing this, and if we do, you're entitled to [insert compensation plan that would cripple the company, without a private equity-style (or other) takeover being able to game it for profit] – on top of any legal obligations. then they'll probably sing your praises… if they believe you. So maybe pu…

if they believe us, indeed :p

Hey, if we figure out how to do that, I'll make a post outlining how to do it for others as well :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#106

Post by mynameisvlad »

tusharpandey13 wrote: post #73

Honestly, this just seems like a cheap rip-off of Vivaldi. All of the features(yes, all of them) are already present in Vivaldi, including the split screen, tree style tabs, sync, global search, full keyboard support. Slapping some UI makeup on top of an already existing product does not warrant a hefty fee of $15 in my view. Also, I don't see any proof that my data is secure. For all I know, you guys will sell off m…

> Apart from the snooze and done features, tell me one thing that this browser achieves that isn't already available through free, open-source, trustworthy extensions whose code I can see and audit.

Is there a Spotlight/Alfred extension for Chrome/ium/Firefox? I haven't seen that UX in a browser yet.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#107

Post by prakashqwerty »

I liked the idea.it seems to have potential,considering the raise of bloatware browser tools in day to day life of an dev.

but what makes me skeptical about it is, i don't see any user reviews about your product.

whenever you are making bold claim about your product, it's existing /early users must verify it is true,which creates trust when potential customers sees it.

Have you beta tested your product?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#108

Post by smoldesu »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #106
tusharpandey13 wrote: post #73

Honestly, this just seems like a cheap rip-off of Vivaldi. All of the features(yes, all of them) are already present in Vivaldi, including the split screen, tree style tabs, sync, global search, full keyboard support. Slapping some UI makeup on top of an already existing product does not warrant a hefty fee of $15 in my view. Also, I don't see any proof that my data is secure. For all I know, you guys will sell off m…

> Apart from the snooze and done features, tell me one thing that this browser achieves that isn't already available through free, open-source, trustworthy extensions whose code I can see and audit. Is there a Spotlight/Alfred extension for Chrome/ium/Firefox? I haven't seen that UX in a browser yet.

Yes. Vivaldi has one that can be invoked with F2, by default.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#109

Post by spiderice »

sauravmitra wrote: post #87
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #64

In your mandatory signup form, I am told "Looks like you missed one of the required fields: [facepalm] Problems". I do not suffer from any of the listed problems. … and now I have to dig up this login link? really testing my patience here…

Thanks for the feedback! Will make the change to the form so it covers your case. Regarding the login flow, would you use Google Sign-In if we had it?

I type in my email and click "Login" and nothing happens. No visual indicator, nothing. Just sits there and lets me keep clicking the "Login" button.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#110

Post by sauravmitra »

agd wrote: post #100

Hey, just want to say good luck and keep at it. Lots of skeptical comments here, but that's always the case for different ideas. Stay positive :)

Thanks!

I do appreciate the skepticism. Most of it seems healthy.

If anyone is skeptical, try it out and let us know if the experience sucked (though we don't think it will), and we'll improve it from your feedback :D

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