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1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by netmare »

cpuguy83 wrote: post #21
LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

I actually don't have a problem with this, but I do have a problem with press releases that are sprayed with emojis. It's incredibly unprofessional and gives a real amateur flavor to the whole thing, which for security software is really offputting.

Maybe ask yourself "Why?". It is a much more fun, not suit and tie kind of announcement. This is also a consumer product, not enterprise.

It's too much fun for me too. Blushing faces and clapping hands look like kindergarden drawings, not consumer-oriented at all. I guess some people are more serious than others. :-*

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

Standalone user for about a decade now. I find this incredibly disappointing.

I don’t mind paying a subscription fee if that’s what makes the business work and allows continuous updates.

But either they give us a self-hosted option or I’m done with 1password. Keeping my passwords in someone else’s cloud is a red line for me.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by pearjuice »

The only fear I have with 1password (or any password vault for that matter) is that one day they disappear or see great malfunction losing my data. The thought of having to reset my password everywhere is gut wrenching. Some accounts I don't even remember I have them yet sporadically use them. Losing all of it would be a problem.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by philliphaydon »

muzzio wrote: post #71
nightski wrote: post #3

I haven't had a single bad experience with Bitwarden. I even pay for it now and still run it locally just to support them. Highly recommended if you don't want to be forced into 1Password's service.

I moved to Bitwarden from Lastpass also, and I'm definitely happy for the most part. The chrome extension leaves a tiny bit to be desired, but definitely still usable: * Not as good about determining correct sign-in URL and lots of times will send me through the auth redirect from registration * Launching sites without mouse isn't possible (shortcut exists to open extension but can't select site to launch it using ar…

I don’t have issues with the URL, there’s lots of options for how the matching works. I found it to be superior to 1Password (tho I haven’t used that in a few years so I donno if they improved it)

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by nirvdrum »

distances wrote: post #82
nightski wrote: post #3

I haven't had a single bad experience with Bitwarden. I even pay for it now and still run it locally just to support them. Highly recommended if you don't want to be forced into 1Password's service.

What's the main point of Bitwarden or competitors over traditional password managers such as KeePassXC? Better autofill features?

Multi-device access, browser integration, mobile platform integration, and sharing with spouse or team members. I know there are solutions to some of those based on some variant of KeePass, but using something like Bitwarden is very easy. Bitwarden is really nice in that you can host the server yourself (or use bitwarden-rs), so you're not having to mess around with WebDAV or some other storage sharing mechanism.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by evgen »

yesimahuman wrote: post #68
maxharris wrote: post #7

1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

This is ridiculous. Electron works great, and if this leads to more frequent updates and a more consistent experience across platforms, that's a win for users. 1Password's Windows client, for example, has always felt behind the Mac edition, and if this brings parity and a higher feature and update velocity, that's a win. I have at least three Electron apps open right now and they are all great experiences that the va…

Electron is a pile of shit and _every_ Electron app I am forced to use should be a source of continuous shame for any dev who actually worked on it. This has nothing to do with improving features or service and is completely about increasing revenue and improving the sort of numbers investors like to see -- driven entirely by the fact that AgileBits has recently closed a B round and needs to show more revenue to justify that $2B valuation.

As a long-time 1password shill I have hit my limit and will slowly start migrating to BitWarden and iCloud Keychain.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by frosted-flakes »

art-vandelay wrote: post #63
tectonic wrote: post #5

Well darn, I guess I have to find a new password manager. 1Pass + Dropbox sync was so good.

Same situation here. I guess my setup will break once they remove dropbox sync from the android app.

Just save your vault as a local folder and sync it yourself. I use SyncThing.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by bennyp101 »

notyourwork wrote: post #90
FreezerburnV wrote: post #50

I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…

$20/month seems a bit steep if you ask me. Otherwise I agree with everything you said. edit: I misread and was looking at the business page. $4.99/month for family and $2.99/month for user is entirely reasonable!

For a family (5 ppl) it was $71.82 last invoice (Dec) which is ~£50 a year.

We have me, my wife, my eldest, and my mum on it - and it is indeed super simple to be able to share things around.

I used to have keepas/lastpass/dashlane - but 1password is the only one I've managed to convince family members to use as well

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by djrogers »

I've been a happy user for over a decade (with a little break in there when I relied on iCloud Keychain), and happily transitioned to the subscription model when it came out. Frankly, it just made more sense - I use it on a ton of different devices, and buying a standalone version for each one cost more than the sub does.

I'm also not worried about the Mac app moving to electron - I interact with 1password via my mobile or browser plugin 99% of the time anyway, so I just don't really care.

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