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FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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That was literally the only way I got help after someone somehow managed to registered one of my email address under a Facebook account I don't control and tried to impersonate me. I don't even know how that was possible since FB does email verification. I tried the normal help system but got nowhere so I reached out to my friends who work at FB. One of them used the internal help system it was resolved within a coup…

Any new account can use Facebook for 24 hours before email verification becomes required . This is a huge issue for any email address not linked to a Facebook account. Facebook will happily leak the social graph of that address's shadow profile (e.g. in the "suggested friends" list), and let anyone impersonate it, for 24h. It happened to me. Those 24h were no fun.

Wow, incredible footgun you got there, Facebook

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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FB had an internal help system called "Oops". It was meant for employees to get help for friends they knew in real life. It was discontinued not long ago (EDIT: maybe not according to a child comment). There were just too many requests for help. Facebook has a corporate structure that simply will not prioritize any effort longer than 6 months unless a senior company executive (Mark, Sheryl) supports it. Even if it af…

The 6 month priorities are due to PSC, Facebook's performance review cycle. Work that took more than a half effectively doesn't count for bonuses or promotions and could possibly get you fired, so it's disincentivized.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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I hate FB and Google, but I don’t buy this argument. It doesn’t pass the duck test for me — doesn’t look or quack like a utility in my view. I am sympathetic to the argument though. Getting locked out of your existing Gmail account could be really disastrous. Maybe there should be regulation for email extrication — if you’re going to ban me, you better allow me to update all of my accounts to not use your email servi…

You seriously dont think email, search, or direct-messaging services sound _anything_ like the telephone or the postal service or the radio?

The are critical pieces of the modern world yes. But not a utility. One cannot live without a utility and utilities generally have a monopoly in most places. If my power or water company bans me for some reason I am toast. I have to endure undue hardship to get something that provides may be 10% of the utility (own well, water pump, generator...). Internet itself (the pipes) on the other hand are probably a utility. I prefer the natural gas like solution though for internet. Someone owns the infrastructure and it is heavily regulated. Multiple other companies resell it, provide addon services etc. But search, email etc are like cars in the US. Essential, but also a business operating in a competitive space.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Nobody is buying an Oculus headset right now because they've been recalled and won't be available until August 24th. https://www.oculus.com/quest-2/removable-facial-interface-al...

This recall is only for the foam face insert. It's removable and probably very inexpensive to make / replace. Oculus is sending free replacements to folks. I am an avid Quest 2 user since ~October. I play Population:one and _love_ it. It's a team-based Battle Royale. I am just blown away by how much fun and social it is. It's been a godsend during the pandemic. The Quest 2 is only $300 - I strongly recommend it!

I wasnt knocking on the quest 2, I love mine. You just literally can't buy one retail right now, only second hand like ebay. It's an FYI.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any new account can use Facebook for 24 hours before email verification becomes required . This is a huge issue for any email address not linked to a Facebook account. Facebook will happily leak the social graph of that address's shadow profile (e.g. in the "suggested friends" list), and let anyone impersonate it, for 24h. It happened to me. Those 24h were no fun.

Wow, incredible footgun you got there, Facebook

Should be a footgun, but they've never really been penalized for things like that.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Microsoft saw the concept of touchscreens and bought out "Surface" around 2003ish; and as a result, we didn't get widespread touchscreens until about a decade or so later. FB buying Oculus feels exactly like that for VR.

This is more of an alternative statement for anyone interested since your statement didn't give anything concrete. Oculus is far far ahead of where any VR developers thought it would be in 2021. In January of 2019 the Rift was still running on cables connected to a $2000 laptop and confined to a 5x5ft square play area with 7 foot tall poles holding scanners on each corner,also plugged into the same computer. If you w…

Is doing VR on the beach really a progress though?

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was literally the only way I got help after someone somehow managed to registered one of my email address under a Facebook account I don't control and tried to impersonate me. I don't even know how that was possible since FB does email verification. I tried the normal help system but got nowhere so I reached out to my friends who work at FB. One of them used the internal help system it was resolved within a coup…

Whenever someone's used my email address, I've used password recovery and taken ownership of the account. It's amazing the number of systems which don't verify email before giving out an account. I've taken control of: Disney DropBox Redbox ...

Apparently Virgin Mobile doesn't verify email addresses nor does it let you reset your password by email. I assume they send you a text or something. So I've been getting billing notifications and other garbage for someone else's account for years.
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