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Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Last of Us Part II I presume

It is about battlefield 5, the last of us was last year. More specifically people didn't like the depiction of world war 2 in this trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZpQadiyqs

Thank you for the correction

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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> is the DFEH out of line, or is the industry just that broken? No chance DEFH is out of line. The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men in my opinion and video games even more so, considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago. It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use vo…

> considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago What?

Look up what sparked Gamergate. It was largely based in men getting mad about women calling games out for being misogynistic.

I am sure some was valid criticism. I am not really a fan of "every game must be progressive", etc. but the fact men got mad that women dared criticize video games should say a lot about the state of the video game industry.

Not only that, but also, for a long time, video games just weren't marketed to girls at all. All video games catered to males and were specifically targeted as such.

It's mainly the Wii, Nintendo DS and Switch that were a big on-ramps for women into mainstream gaming. Even now, many men assume "female gamer == Candy Crush" or some other weird idea. Or joke that if you are a woman on a video game that you _must_ be a trap.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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> The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men That's debatable. CS was overwhelmingly male and wasn't prestigious until recently. > video games even more so I wonder how much of that we can attribute to DOOM. The DOOM devs wanted to make an hyper-violent game centered around Demon and heavy metal, and that reflected in the culture at id (not the violence). And they made a bunch of money which spurr…

> That's debatable. CS was overwhelmingly male and wasn't prestigious until recently. We're talking about the same career that's been known as a money-printing machine for the past 25 years?

It was prestigious to be a computer-adjacent business person for the past 30 or 40 years. But there wasn't much prestige involved in the actual work of building, or programming, computers (unless you became rich and turned into a business person).

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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post #16

Does anyone have any more specific information aside from "widespread sexism"? It would be good to know exactly what is prompting this walkout, and exactly what changes they're hoping to achieve with it.

Honest question: Guys often "rib" each other, it's part of the culture among males. When you throw women into the mix and they get "ribbed" (perhaps for being "one of the guys," as it were) does this often become sexual harassment? Perhaps the culture of "ribbing" needs to go away for everyone, or at least from the workplace, but it has always been the case for me that a close friend or acquaintance typically only "r…

> That is why the definition of ribbing is "good-natured teasing".

The problem is that there may not in fact be anything "good-natured" about it - on both sides - yet the culture forces the recipient to act like it is or they will be punished.

In other words: the only way in which that kind of thing is not toxic is when a recipient can at any time say "that's not funny, stop it!", and the reaction will be a sincere apology and an actual stopping.

Now how often is that actually the case?

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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This seems to largely match a lot of the same things that happened with Riot Games over the last couple of years. I am hoping that these actions can help spread awareness of any issues that may be present at Blizzard and past, current, and future employees won't face the same issues. It is a long road to be traveled to get there. I hope that the current WFH situation doesn't detract from the walkout. A lot of the vis…

> is the DFEH out of line, or is the industry just that broken? No chance DEFH is out of line. The tech industry is strongly biased in the favor of white men in my opinion and video games even more so, considering women playing video games only became socially acceptable a few years ago. It's still common for men to talk down to women on video games, to the point where the overwhelming majority of women do not use vo…

It's not about having female characters in games, that's never been a problem.

It's about totally rewriting history to appease the modern woke sensibility that people were complaining about.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Think about all those men complaining that a video game _dared_ have a female character or even more so, a non-conventionally attractive one gasp. That was in 2018... That's the _average_ person who is making a video game. What game are you referring to?

There are literally too many to name, but this one comes to mind[1]. [1] - https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/horizon-forbidden-west-aloy... EDIT: 4 responses within minutes of each other all pointing to a different game just underlines my "too many to name" comment.

Here are a few more...

Battlefield: https://www.salon.com/2018/05/26/women-in-wwii-game-once-aga...

Rust: https://www.vice.com/en/article/d7y7jj/this-game-is-forcing-...

Outriders: https://www.reddit.com/r/outriders/comments/lyzmz3/srsly_so_...

Horizon Zero Dawn: https://twitter.com/apexalphaj/status/1398826689992482819

Total War Rome 2: https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/total-war-rome-ii-female-cha...

The Last Of Us Part 2: https://collider.com/last-of-us-2-controversy-explained/

The Outer Worlds: https://steamcommunity.com/app/578650/discussions/0/27330478...

Apex Legends: https://gamerant.com/apex-legends-female-complaints-response...

I could keep going...

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#108
post #58

Blizzard hasn't produced a decent game in two decades, all the original talent have long departed, and now it's just a sexist cesspool. How about they quit instead of simply walking out?

Some people don't like having to find a new job in another company that treats their employees better, or simply don't care enough. That's what you see people who have been harassed/assaulted not quitting and just "taking it". It blows my mind, that someone that can work at blizz, prefers to be harassed to just quitting and finding a new job, is not that this company is their only option, even if you are in a visa, is it really worth it to be sexually assaulted just to keep your immigration status? I guess every person is different.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#109
post #4

Anybody knows if this is going to affect the release of the remastered Diablo?

Did we learn nothing from Warcraft 3 Remastered? Don't preorder, don't look forward to it. They have to prove it's good, we can't trust anymore. Plus, you know, I'm not buying it because Blizzard is straight up ghoulish.

a friend told me I should get WC3 a few years ago so we could play together, so I bought it and the expansion from Blizzard's website, but never got around to playing it. after the remaster came out, I thought to myself, well, now's as good of a time as any to play the originals. then I discovered that anyone who had a copy of the originals had their copies replaced with a gimped version of the remaster, and you had to buy the remaster to remove said gimping. absolutely deplorable, I won't buy another game from them again.

Re: Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

#110
post #58

Blizzard hasn't produced a decent game in two decades, all the original talent have long departed, and now it's just a sexist cesspool. How about they quit instead of simply walking out?

Got bills to pay.

Blizzard is not the only company in CA.
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