I used it a ton during the Israeli conflict to gain some perspective of the other side. Hearing from real ppl, and being able to share my experiences. But honestly it just supported my previously held beliefs of who they were. I was hoping to hear something new, but of all the people I spoke with, it turned out the news perfectly represented them.
Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
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Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
But wasn't that the end game of the app? Or that app should have remained exclusive to some users? What users? Who would be the judge of that? Just multi millionaires? Just founders? Or tech people? I don't even know what "tech people" means. Even so, if it was supposed to be like that: what would be the appeal for those users if they didn't had access large audiences listening to them? If they want exclusive talks t…
I’ve heard it called viral marketing before. I don't disagree with your points. Probably just a semantic difference.
Ah but you're right, it is viral marketing.
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#103How is the blogosphere doing? Is it all about forgotten? Or is it alive and well? I don't follow any blogs, but am very glad that they exist. It seems to me to be the most genuine expression of social media.
Substack is the new rage now. I don’t really understand why - it’s just a blog with mailing list! - but maybe the addition of payments make it work. I have to say I really enjoy Substack as a platform. But I thought that about Medium few years ago, and now I actively avoid Medium articles. So, whatever.
I think the difference here is that medium tried to be free and then charge, while substack leaves that up to the author. Medium followed the Web 2.0 model, substack is following Web 3.0? Creators get to choose how to monetize their product, platforms just act as platforms and get out of the way.
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#104I see the potential. It’s radio or podcasts, but unlike those, listeners can participate. You could ask questions. It’s kind of like going to an in-person panel, but you don’t have to solely dedicate yourself to it. You could have this going while driving, or working, or however people normally use podcasts/radio, then there’s this added benefit. Can you imagine joe Rogan where some of his fans could talk with him? Could be nuts (in a good way)
I think the platform is going thru the hype curve, where it’s going to have to find the types of content that work best for that, and build around that. That’s what happened for live video - it also used to be a smorgasbord of chaos, everything from people talking to people just streaming themselves sitting there. Justin tv realized gaming was working / leading to a lot of engagement, and relaunched around that concept (twitch).
I wouldn’t rule it out just yet.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading. Sure, for a minority of consumers like yourself. However, for most people that make up the mass audience... they do not like to read long-form text whether it is articles in Vanity Fair, The Atlantic or books. Yes, people would rather read the text of a temperature and weather forecast on their smartphone -- instead of listen to a long-winded presentati…
So how does clubhouse change the game? We already have youtube and podcasts. You can listen to Joe Rogan over bluetooth in your car. You can even ask Siri to play it. What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators monetize their content? Why would I go to clubhouse instead of patreon for the type of content you describe? Not a…
Part of the idea was that it would be more authentic and kinder. When people are completely anonymized they are free to be their worst selves. Your voice is personal. Its slower though because its more 'single threaded' for lack of a better term, than a reddit sub.
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#106I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”
My sentiment exactly. It felt like there is something interesting that could be done with a piece of software like that on mobile (I used it mostly while out on runs or walking).
I remember thinking that there will surely be a fedirated/self-hosted version spun up in no time and then we'll see if the idea really takes off.
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#107I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…
FWIW, here are some musicians playing the harp?
https://www.clubhouse.com/room/xq7bKDed
Listening to people babble incessantly about shit they don't understand might suck, but being able to follow your favorite independent musicians (or poets or whatever) around the various open mic nights or invited performances they do to listen to them playing live music in different audience contexts might be more fun. I happened to follow a musician on Clubouse whom I was(/am) sponsoring on Patreon, and it was fun getting notifications "Kris Angelis is now playing" every now and then (and before anyone tries to assert as such, no: you can't replace this experience with following her YouTube account, which I also do, for the same reasons people play open mic nights in real life rather than either always doing concerts or simply selling CDs; the Clubhouse mechanism surrounds following individual people, not shows, through shared experiences that generally would be inappropriate to attach to your own feed... YouTube could try to add this--"someone you follow was tagged in this uploaded video" and "someone you follow is right now appearing in this live video"--but the mechanism is non-obvious since they don't do the muxing and is anyway very different from their current experience).
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#108The thing that you notice almost immediately is that the vast majority of people suck at the medium of Clubhouse. It’s like scrolling through an endless list of the worst podcasts in the world.
Good quality content is almost always edited, not live.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
So how does clubhouse change the game? We already have youtube and podcasts. You can listen to Joe Rogan over bluetooth in your car. You can even ask Siri to play it. What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators monetize their content? Why would I go to clubhouse instead of patreon for the type of content you describe? Not a…
Part of the idea was that it would be more authentic and kinder. When people are completely anonymized they are free to be their worst selves. Your voice is personal. Its slower though because its more 'single threaded' for lack of a better term, than a reddit sub.
> Part of the idea was that it would be more authentic and kinder.
Did that work out? All I know about clubhouse in this regard is stuff you you can find at google searches for e.g. "clubhouse misogynist", "clubhouse racist", "clubhouse anti-semitic"
I have never been there, and part of the reason is the reputation that it has from afar be being the opposite of "kind".
Wikipedia entry for "Clubhouse (app)" says as much in para 2.
Maybe, being not anonymous isn't a cure-all for bad behaviour. After all, there were racists before they could be anonymous online.
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#110Clubhouse is a strange case of hype app which deliveries basically nothing. I got a invite and I have been testing it for a while, but for me the main problems with clubhouse are: - lack of a better algorithm on club tab - lack of interaction: it has not chat for listeners. - too much marketing as the article well said - boring people - not inclusive. How does deaf people can use it? Clubhouse could have better featu…
> - not inclusive. How does deaf people can use it? Wasn't Clubhouse iOS only at the start?
They finally fixed that problem?