When will we get secure desktop OSes? (2018)

Post by pjmlp » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 12:28 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #100

pjmlp wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Termux has a solution that they refuse to adopt, use Java APIs from Android. Android's use of Linux kernel is an implementation detail, trying to pretend otherwise only leads to pain.

>use Java APIs from Android. Considering termux is package mostly software written in c I'd love to hear how you expect them to do that.

By doing like anyone else on Android does, by making use of JNI and NDK APIs, the actual Android ABIs.

In regards to C, Android NDK supports ISO C11 and ISO C++17 as of today.

Android is not Linux, just borrowed the kernel as implementation detail.

Naturally some folks don't get it, thus keep trying the broken road to use POSIX in Android, and that road ends in failure.

Post by iggldiggl » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 2:12 PM UTC

foxpurple wrote: post #95

mimi89999 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the problem is that many desktop workflows require data passing through many apps. How would you do that on the iOS model?

iOS has 2 solutions to this. They have a push models where you “share” the file to the next app you want to use. And they also have a traditional file store model where all apps can request to save and request to load files. Critically, apps can not directly read your files, they can show a button which will open the OS file picker and the user can pick a file to open which then provides access to the app. This means…

> Critically, apps can not directly read your files, they can show a button which will open the OS file picker and the user can pick a file to open which then provides access to the app.

Unfortunately this model breaks down for any kind of file type that doesn't simply consist of a single, atomic file, e.g. various constellations of media files (playlists, subtitles, multi-part videos), multi-part archives, HTML files, georeferenced imagery with sidecar files, etc. etc.

Re: When will we get secure desktop OSes? (2018)

Re: When will we get secure desktop OSes? (2018)