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Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

shadowlight wrote: post #68
bryik wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> UI design isn't really art Who are you to say what is and is not art?

I have little respect for "artists" who do UI because the job requires little skill. Sites and exposes like the parent of this entire thread serve to inflate the worth of people who do this stuff. Painting the mona lisa is talent. Arranging text and pictures with flat colored geometric elements is NOT talent. The idea that the still life painting is even comparable to some website design is laughable. It takes a lot…

> I have little respect for "artists" who do UI because the job requires little skill.

It requires little skill to do it badly, and it's easy to get away with doing it badly. That's not the same thing.

This is like people who read some cheesy superhero comics and declare that comics can't be real literature.

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by ace2358 »

nexuist wrote: post #75
spython wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Material design is like the design of a typical hotel room. It aims to accommodate everyone. It aims to be a temporary home for everyone and a permanent home for no-one. Hardly anyone would actively choose to make such a clinical, impersonal, unopinionated environment their home. That's what happened with user interfaces when software ate the world – once the UI designers tried to reach everyone, be the place for eve…

I really enjoyed this comment. I wish new software was weird , I want software that looks bizarre , stuff that is almost nonsensical until you try to use it and realize it makes you feel good. Everything feels the same today because of hotel room design.

Interestingly enough, this is one of the aspects of being a music producer I enjoy! Every plug-in feels like it’s designed to be inspire you. Let’s be honest, an EQ plugin is super basic in what it does to the sound yet we are blessed with dozens of different designs.

It’s the same with any other effect or instrument! The designer's get to have a field day!

It’s my biggest criticism of Ableton - they’re built in modules (not really plugins) are as bland as the whole DAW and don’t act like 3rd party plugins.

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by deltaonefive »

dang wrote: post #100
deltafourone wrote: post #90

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Please don't shallowly ban people for no good reason. If you read that thread you posted my reaction to him was pretty reasonable. He told me to go study physics. A small violation of the rules? Yeah sure but did I incite anger? No. I was responding to his insult... hardly worth a ban. Additionally who's to judge that is a shallow dismissal. YOU simply JUST don't agree with it. That's the main problem here. I WROTE r…

The comment was an extreme violation of the site guidelines and would be a bannable offence even if you weren't routinely creating accounts to do that. Please stop.

Yeah it wasn't. We can agree to disagree. The other guy who was obviously saying things to trigger me obviously isn't even getting a warning which goes to show how biased you are. "Go study physics. Go study chemistry." Seriously, how offensive is that? You're rationalizing your actions which are obviously unfair and applied selectively.

But in my opinion, that's just one aspect of you being unfair and NOT even the main point as it's a completely different thread.

You just failed to even address my other point how my dismissal WASN'T shallow at all. You literally just banned me for something I provided a lot of explanation for and wasn't SHALLOW at all. Good for you, maybe you can ban all my other accounts because it seems like the only way for anyone to get unbanned is to bend the knee to you rather than point out your own faults.

Also yeah keep doing the IP shadow ban, pretty soon you can ban this entire subnet who knows what service you're restricting?

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by stemlord »

nexuist wrote: post #75
spython wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Material design is like the design of a typical hotel room. It aims to accommodate everyone. It aims to be a temporary home for everyone and a permanent home for no-one. Hardly anyone would actively choose to make such a clinical, impersonal, unopinionated environment their home. That's what happened with user interfaces when software ate the world – once the UI designers tried to reach everyone, be the place for eve…

I really enjoyed this comment. I wish new software was weird , I want software that looks bizarre , stuff that is almost nonsensical until you try to use it and realize it makes you feel good. Everything feels the same today because of hotel room design.

I think the hotel room design is what's weird, as opposed to unique, specific designs. The former being the result of scaled-up data/market-driven decision making producing something no one person asked for... that's what's truly bizarre

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by egypturnash »

pkdpic_y9k wrote: post #77
egypturnash wrote: post #22

This article title is kind of hilarious given that yesterday I learnt that Twitter is currently de-emphasizing the display of tweets with links to Patreon in them, thus making it harder for artists to grow their financial support. The tech world will happily use our work to keep people scrolling their endless ad spigots, but the minute we ask people to leave and give some money to us ? Nothing. So come join the tech…

Do you have a link to an article on that? Would love to check it out.

Just a twitter link: https://twitter.com/ThornwolfArt/status/1417952808813301764

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by helloworld11 »

egypturnash wrote: post #19
gatkinso wrote: post #4

Does this person even know any actual artists? Many of them would rather die than work in tech.

The article opens with "I’ve been an artist my whole life, in various forms -- children’s book illustrator, tattoo artist, and maker of branded images and characters." so presumably they know at least one artist: themselves. A career like that has probably left them with social circles that include a lot of other artists. That said, yeah, I think the only artist in my circles (I'm a artist myself) who regularly expre…

What kind of art do you practice? If you don't mind sharing.

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by cryptica »

wyre wrote: post #73
cryptica wrote: post #26

Impostor syndrome is a prerequisite for getting a job these days. Companies only want to hire people who feel like frauds and investors like to invest in people who feel like fraud. Since companies can't actually advertise that they're looking to hire fraudsters, they have to settle for the next closest thing: People who feel like frauds.

Source?

Your own eyes and your brain.

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by egypturnash »

helloworld11 wrote: post #106
egypturnash wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article opens with "I’ve been an artist my whole life, in various forms -- children’s book illustrator, tattoo artist, and maker of branded images and characters." so presumably they know at least one artist: themselves. A career like that has probably left them with social circles that include a lot of other artists. That said, yeah, I think the only artist in my circles (I'm a artist myself) who regularly expre…

What kind of art do you practice? If you don't mind sharing.

Mostly I draw comics. Mostly with Adobe Illustrator. http://egypt.urnash.com

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by httpsterio »

ace2358 wrote: post #102
nexuist wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really enjoyed this comment. I wish new software was weird , I want software that looks bizarre , stuff that is almost nonsensical until you try to use it and realize it makes you feel good. Everything feels the same today because of hotel room design.

Interestingly enough, this is one of the aspects of being a music producer I enjoy! Every plug-in feels like it’s designed to be inspire you. Let’s be honest, an EQ plugin is super basic in what it does to the sound yet we are blessed with dozens of different designs. It’s the same with any other effect or instrument! The designer's get to have a field day! It’s my biggest criticism of Ableton - they’re built in modu…

basically all DAWs have a stock look and some plugins even ship without an UI and defaults to how that DAW visualizes them. I'm not a Live user, but I'm actually a bit envious because I like how the rack effects look and behave.

Re: Artists, shrug off that imposter syndrome – the tech world needs you

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Post by httpsterio »

armchairhacker wrote: post #6

I think people underestimate how UI aesthetics actually improve user experience. I remember when I was younger it was a lot easier to be more productive and creative with Pages, Numbers, Keynote than their competitors (this was when they were still skeuomorphic). The pretty UI genuinely motivated and inspired me, to an extent that I actually noticed. I really believe it helped start projects easier and work on them l…

There has been some research into how visual aesthetic affect the perceived user experience. If I don't misremember, the subjects found those applications that were more aesthetic (to them) to function better and easier than a barebones version that did the exact same thing.
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