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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#101

Post by andy_ppp »

renewiltord wrote: post #91
andy_ppp wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you care if I read your stuff that’s public on the Internet, surely we should all be trying to understand each other’s point of view more not less?

To prevent context collapse. Some people are unable to understand what I say and take offence. That could be because of the way I'm saying it or because of them. Either way, I don't care. I would like to expend energy on my audience. Ideally, I can talk to my audience and to no one else.

Great, make your account private then… or do you want all the benefits of a completely public account without any of the costs? I’m not suggesting blocked people should be able to interact with your content, just that they can still read it. This applies especially to information being disseminated by government.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#102

Post by pmulard »

I use twitter daily and fleets was nothing more than an annoyance to me. I would click on someone's profile picture to view their profile, and it would automatically make me view their fleets instead. Even after watching them (or skipping through to the end), I would click it again and it would still take me to their fleets. Getting to their profile took several taps on tiny sections of the screen instead. The UX was pretty terrible imo and made me frustrated more than anything.

I like the idea of fleets, but I think it was implemented poorly. They just copied the same 'story' format that's been recycled 100x over. I think an alternative exists out there, twitter will just have to be a little more creative.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#103

Post by vorpalhex »

gonehome wrote: post #99
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

> block everyone who liked this tweet

It'd be more efficient to have a twitter mode where you can only ever tweet, and not read anything other people tweet.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#104

Post by insin »

par wrote: post #4

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets this is exactly my problem with Twitter. It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. As much as I try, I can't seem to escape the oversaturated bubble of a handful of extremely loud mouthed tweeters and their ardent followers. Mix in the t…

If you're using Twitter on a desktop browser, I made an extension which by default removes everything but what the people you're following are actually saying or commenting on, and automatically switches you back to the chronological timeline when Twitter tries to move you back to the algorithmic timeline:

https://github.com/insin/tweak-new-twitter#tweak-new-twitter

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#105

Post by udfalkso »

They should just have been normal tweets that disappear after X hours. No special location, no visual treatment, etc. Just ephemeral tweets that don't stick around forever on your profile.

That would have gotten people tweeting when they might have been afraid to otherwise. That would have been the appropriate equivalent of the features they were inspired by on other platforms.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#106

Post by duxup »

leviathant wrote: post #17
par wrote: post #4

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets this is exactly my problem with Twitter. It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. As much as I try, I can't seem to escape the oversaturated bubble of a handful of extremely loud mouthed tweeters and their ardent followers. Mix in the t…

Be selective in who you follow, and if you're following someone who shares interesting thoughts but retweets too much, you can turn off their retweets. That in combination with being judicious on the block button makes Twitter one of my favorite social networks.

I found pruning and cultivating collections of 'good' twitter accounts just too much work for what it was worth.

The accounts are all run by human (well I hope they are) and all prone to the same problems that make me not like Twitter ...

At least most folks maintain some focus on the topic / decorum on their blog or in a random article. Most seem incapable of ignoring the attention you get from being a jerk or typical twitter drama and etc.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#107

Post by dheera »

thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

I didn't even know about "Fleets", maybe that was part of the problem.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#108

Post by cpeterso »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #92

Looks like we've still got: - Snapchat Stories - YouTube Stories (Google) - LinkedIn Stories (Microsoft) - Instagram Stories (Facebook) - WeChat Time Capsule (Tencent) - Weibo Stories (Alibaba) - Naver Snow https://miguelrochefort.com/blog/tech-giant/#65-stories-35

And Chrome's Web Stories:

https://stories.google/

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#109

Post by cpeterso »

The feature name "Fleets" was terrible. I know it was a pun on "fleeting tweet", but the word "fleet" just makes me think of a fleet of ships.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#110

Post by gonehome »

vorpalhex wrote: post #103
gonehome wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

> block everyone who liked this tweet It'd be more efficient to have a twitter mode where you can only ever tweet, and not read anything other people tweet.

And also no value?

I'm guessing this is primarily snark, but there are a lot of tweets that are pretty good signal of bad behavior. I'm not talking about some nuanced difference in opinion. For the tweets I'm talking about knocking out everyone that liked it wouldn't be a big deal.

Sure some may use this to craft an echo chamber for themselves, but they're already doing that anyway - and a lot of people 'hate follow' to stir up abuse intentionally to drive traffic. These people wouldn't find this tool valuable because they feed off of the nastiness to drive engagement and grow their audience.

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