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Re: National Collegiate Athletic Association vs. Alston [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:18 AM UTC

yupper32 wrote: post #68

jldugger wrote: post #25

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NBA? Sure. NFL? Yeah. They can probably fund and figure out the logistics for an operation like this. What about all the other sports? I'm really struggling to come up with a reason this is the academy's problem to solve.

Its society's problem to solve. We shouldn't do away with college sports without a replacement avenue for people to get into high level sports. Most people who want to do away with college sports seem okay with killing their professional leagues. We shouldn't be okay with that.

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Re: National Collegiate Athletic Association vs. Alston [pdf]

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Post by jldugger » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:22 AM UTC

yupper32 wrote: post #68

jldugger wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NBA? Sure. NFL? Yeah. They can probably fund and figure out the logistics for an operation like this. What about all the other sports? I'm really struggling to come up with a reason this is the academy's problem to solve.

Its society's problem to solve. We shouldn't do away with college sports without a replacement avenue for people to get into high level sports. Most people who want to do away with college sports seem okay with killing their professional leagues. We shouldn't be okay with that.

I'm not sure I understand why we need to be so concerned as a country about the longevity of competitive rowing.

Re: National Collegiate Athletic Association vs. Alston [pdf]

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Post by yupper32 » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 3:33 AM UTC

jldugger wrote: post #102

yupper32 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its society's problem to solve. We shouldn't do away with college sports without a replacement avenue for people to get into high level sports. Most people who want to do away with college sports seem okay with killing their professional leagues. We shouldn't be okay with that.

I'm not sure I understand why we need to be so concerned as a country about the longevity of competitive rowing.

Sports are important. Being competitive is important. Having hobbies is important. Taking time to do something other than "real life" responsibilities is important.

Much of this relies on the inspiration people get from watching these sports, and exposure the sport gets from the professional leagues.

All of this in ingrained in American culture. Whether it's capitalism, or high level sports, or pick up ball. It's all the same ball game.

Calling out a single one of these is incredibly disingenuous. Would society worsen if we never had competitive rowing again? No. Would it worsen if we got rid of the 24 sports that the NCAA oversees? Absolutely.

Re: National Collegiate Athletic Association vs. Alston [pdf]

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Post by jldugger » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

yupper32 wrote: post #103

jldugger wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I understand why we need to be so concerned as a country about the longevity of competitive rowing.

Sports are important. Being competitive is important. Having hobbies is important. Taking time to do something other than "real life" responsibilities is important. Much of this relies on the inspiration people get from watching these sports, and exposure the sport gets from the professional leagues. All of this in ingrained in American culture. Whether it's capitalism, or high level sports, or pick up ball. It's all…

> Sports are important. Being competitive is important. Having hobbies is important.

Even if I agreed with these unexplained assertions, none of this justifies collegiate varsity sports in the face of all the obstacles it places on the primary objective of university education, or indeed, the oddity of placing SAT scores and minimum GPAs as a barrier to professional athleticism.

Your thesis seems to be professional sports are a priori important, and until we can replace varsity sports that feed professional leagues with a non-affiliated minor league, varsity must not be allowed to end. But there's really only one professional league I can think of that absolutely depends on the NCAA for athlete training, and we all seem to agree they can afford to solve this threat to their highly profitable existence; Congress has even granted them an antitrust exemption so it seems entirely fair society demands they develop a solution.