Utopia, a visual design tool for React, with code as the source of truth

Post by speedbird » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 6:39 AM UTC

jaggederest wrote: post #97

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I'm getting old, too *sigh. Technology stacks appear, and go right ahead reinventing dependency managers and repositories, IDEs with autocompletion, refactoring & WYSIWYG editors, a strong type system, comments and schema validation for configuration file formats (JSON)... Nice work though, looks really promising!

Something something smalltalk in the 80s something something. I'm old enough to remember Smalltalk systems running on Sun workstations being a thing. I still don't know if we've reached that level of development effectiveness with modern tools.

Post by Abishek_Muthian » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 6:47 AM UTC

rheeseyb wrote: post #21

sktrdie wrote: post #9

To me this editor gets it right in the sense that we don’t need to get rid of code as the “nocode” movement is trying. Instead we need to make coding more enjoyable and figure out ways to make it more interactive. One specific thing Utopia addresses to me is the need for the code and the actual thing to be treated more as one single interactable component and not two separate things. Instead we're treating the thing…

Thank you! This is pretty much exactly the ethos behind Utopia - that there is ultimately some underlying thing that you want to make changes to, but you often want to be able to make those changes from different viewpoints (or in different contexts) depending on the types of changes you want to make. The React paradigm, especially with functional components, is absolutely right for this kind of a tool.

Post by rho4 » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 6:53 AM UTC

maga wrote: post #102

rho4 wrote: post #41

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Also: Visual Basic and Delphi.

Delphi gang here! Encountered Delphi as a kid by accident, and playing with that first form was a life changing event for me: realizing that I can make something new, real, tangible, that I'm in control. Coming from a non-tech family/background, this was big for me, I don't think I'd have gone into tech if not for it.

Post by cloudcalvin » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 7:05 AM UTC

Post by cdaringe » Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 7:20 AM UTC

AbolTabol wrote: post #73

Product Designer here. Is there a specific reason why tools/demos(Framer comes to mind) such as these are tied to React? Is it just because of the popularity of React these days or is there a technical reason for it that's lost on me?