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Re: Bonzi Buddy

#101
‘BonziBUDDY’ as an example of an intelligent software agent. Alexander Löffler, University Of Applied Sciences, Zweibrücken.

https://dis.ijs.si/Mezi/pedagosko/Abonzi.pdf

>Every light casts shadows and so does Bonzi, too. What this gorilla is supposed to do is help you with all your internet activities, like checking e-mail, surfing webpages, and helping you find anything you want. I have to say that the purple guy is rather an obstacle than any help. Bonzi tends to swing himself always toward that corner of your screen, you are at the moment desperately trying to concentrate on. Additionally, the buddy talks all the time. If this would only concern jokes and other fun features, it could be looked over (and adjusted, by the way). Instead, Bonzi is permanently trying to sell the user upgrades, that make him bigger, better and more interesting. Users that download the initial Bonzi version are lured by telling them the free character exists only for a limited time, a $40 value for free. So far, so good. But this basic version includes only very limited features, such as one song or a hand full of jokes and amazing facts. While the general talkativity is adjustable, the continuous advertisements keep on flowing out of his little mouth or popping up in the middle of the screen. This is extremely annoying. This guy just keeps on telling you to order, order, order. “Don’t you want to send me to school, so I can learn 500 new jokes?” Fine, but at a cost of $19.95??? Voice recognition module: $15, 250 facts vol. 1 & 2: $10 each, entertainment center module to play multimedia content: $30, ... Bonzi is also supposed to tell stories. He does not. At least not unless you order another expansion pack. The entire package would cost about $150 to upgrade Bonzi totally. So much for Bonzi being freeware ...

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#102
post #11

I remember about 10 years ago a college roommate and I ran `strings` on bonzi.exe and found some horrors. I think there are strings in there that specifically tell kids to go get their parent's credit cards and type in the numbers.

Sounds like a rehash of Soupy Sales' "Green Pieces of Paper" scandal.

Soupy Sales’ ‘Green Pieces of Paper’ Scandal. Scandal erupted when children's TV host Soupy Sales asked his young viewers to send him 'little green pieces of paper.'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greenmail/

>In January 1965 on his morning children’s show, the performer Soupy Sales suggested to his young viewers that they find the wallets of their sleeping fathers and take out “some of those funny green pieces of paper with all those nice pictures of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Alexander Hamilton, and send them along to your old pal, Soupy, care of WNEW, New York.”

>“Hey kids, last night was New Year’s Eve, and your mother and dad were out having a great time. They are probably still sleeping and what I want you to do is tiptoe in their bedroom and go in your mom’s pocketbook and your dad’s pants, which are probably on the floor. You’ll see a lot of green pieces of paper with pictures of guys in beards. Put them in an envelope and send them to me at Soupy Sales, Channel 5, New York, New York. And you know what I’m going to send you? A post card from Puerto Rico!”

>The most famous single gag comes on New Year’s Day 1965. Mr. Sales tells kids to go into their parents’ wallets and to send him “those little green pieces of paper.”It’s become a cult thing to say you sent $10, $20, he says, but if that had been true, he would have had enough money to buy the building. He received only a few dollars, and a week’s suspension.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/soupy-sales-new-years-day-jo...

>Speaking to Entertainment Weekly in 1993, the comedian claimed he received only $1 and some Monopoly money. But that same year, he told an audience at the Brokerage Comedy Club in Bellmore, N.Y., that he received $80,000. One woman in attendance shouted, "I want my dollar back!" To which Sales responded, "That's my ride home." He also recalled a 28-year-old woman who sent in a dollar with the message, "I've seen your show, and you should go to Puerto Rico."

>You can watch the 1993 comment from the comedy club below.

SOUPY SALES: Green Pieces of Paper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=a-OGy3Kh7yM&...

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#103
post #21
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Edit: Wow this got 2 downvotes in its first 2 minutes. Do you all think I'm wrong or something? The internet seems to have some references to exactly what I'm talking about. I'm quite certain I'm not wrong. Do you need proof? Besides the general advice not to complain about downvotes, I think that you are "Do you need proof?" sounds aggrieved, even though asking for some more evidence than "I remember" and "The int…

I certainly didn't mean to be complaining. I'm more just confused and trying to improve. I thought little stories of using linux/unix tools to peek inside early internet spyware was a guaranteed point of interest on HN, especially when other users are sharing similar stories. I was concerned that maybe I was wrong and my memory is wrong, but it's difficult to prove. If I'm sharing false information it would be nice t…

I posted a link above to a paper that quoted some of the things that Bonzai Buddy said, and they were pretty creepy and pushy, but it didn't mention that he asked for credit card numbers or green pieces of paper, like Soupy Sales did.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27403600

https://dis.ijs.si/Mezi/pedagosko/Abonzi.pdf

>This guy just keeps on telling you to order, order, order. “Don’t you want to send me to school, so I can learn 500 new jokes?” Fine, but at a cost of $19.95??? Voice recognition module: $15, 250 facts vol. 1 & 2: $10 each, entertainment center module to play multimedia content: $30, ... Bonzi is also supposed to tell stories. He does not. At least not unless you order another expansion pack. The entire package would cost about $150 to upgrade Bonzi totally. So much for Bonzi being freeware ...

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#104
So nostalgic. This brings me back to a time when computing was fun, but also fraught with danger. I can't even recall the number of times 13-year-old me totally screwed up trying to install Mandrake 7 or some such misadventure, and had to sweat through getting it to boot again without the aid of any other internet-connected device. I believe once or twice I even called a friend and asked them to look something up and read it to me over the phone.

It's an obscure beginning, but the first time I ever wrote something that could rightfully be considered "code" was mIRC scripting language. You could find DLLs that would extend mIRC with arbitrary functionality. I figured out how to open a socket, listen for incoming connections and just by printing out what I saw when I pointed the browser at localhost I reverse engineered HTTP and created a shitty web server in mIRC. I remember it would serve a text file just fine, but images usually got corrupted. I think mIRC sockets were only intended for text, or there was a distinction between text and binary variables or something.

Later I used an mIRC DLL extension to control the mouse, my shitty web server, some program the took a screenshot once per second, a real web server, a dynamic DNS service, and a dial-up timed dialer to cobble together something that connected my computer to the internet during my "computer applications" class at school and let me remote control it. Of course, there was nothing I needed on my PC at home, and nothing worth doing on it with a janky setup that only refreshed after each click, but it was fun to make.

I miss those days. Every download was exciting and new, it seemed like there was a vast frontier of unexplored internet, software, IRC channels, and things I could make. Now I sit down at my computer and check about 4 sites, have trouble focusing on making anything interesting, and generally do not have the same thrill. I wonder how much of it has to do with not being 13, and how much has to do with the modern internet.

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#105
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it has little to do with age, to me, though it is far more common in older people: you value your time, and spending ages customizing everything does not help you reach your goals, so you just don't do it.

Plus, who even sees their desktop these days? :D

This is why I think some folks spend so much time on customizing their mechanical keyboards. The need to decorate one's own space.

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#106
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the windows 10 shell is fine. press and release windows key, type the name of the application you want, press enter. same as windows 7. why would I need a different shell? last time I tried one, almost 20 years ago, it crashed continually and was therefore completely useless. same with all of the stardock software I bought. garbage, all of it.

Except that if it doesn’t find thr application it will search Bing if you aren’t using Windows 10 Enterprise. This can’t be turned off unless you edit the registry. I was furious when I figured this out.

Years ago I found a great Chrome/FF extension called "Bing2Google" where any search from the start menu that gets sent to either browser is automatically re-directed to Google instead. I was more furious when they changed that to always open Edge instead of your preferred browser.

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#107
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it was 100% malware, why are people looking back at this fondly lately?

What malicious stuff did it do?

>In 2002, an article in Consumer Reports Web Watch labelled BonziBuddy as spyware, stating that it contains a backdoor trojan that collects information from users. The activities the program is said to engage in include constantly resetting the user's web browser homepage to bonzi.com without the user's permission, prompting and tracking various information about the user, installing a toolbar, and serving advertisements.[11]

Of course, back then we called software that behaved that way malware. Today we'd call it Windows 10.

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#108
post #4

I sometimes look back in awe and wonder at how good bonzi buddy was for it's time as a _piece of software_. It was objectively ridiculous and borderline a piece of malware, but it's burned into my memory and it's functionality was fairly impressive when compared to buggy toolbar apps of today.

it was 100% malware, why are people looking back at this fondly lately?

Perhaps because they find it cute, like Netbus' Whack-a-mole.

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#109
post #48

Geeze, that's a blast from the past. You know it's funny- I used to periodically go looking for things to customize my desktop experience. This, those little dogs and cats, Rainmeter, Amiga workbench hacks, etc. etc. Nowadays- I supposed finally burned by enough malware and having become curmudgeonly- I want the most minimal "plain vanilla" setup I can get and pride myself in hardly ever installing _anything_.

One great program that I recommend for Windows users looking for a plain vanilla set up is Open-Shell-Menu. https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/ It replaces the always animating Windows 10 start menu with something more simple.

I love how an application which modifies the UI of windows does not have a single screenshot showing the application on their website. What is going on with this trend?

Re: Bonzi Buddy

#110
post #24

I know it's silly but I actually have some pretty fond childhood memories of Bonzi Buddy. Me and my cousin installed it on the family computer (running Windows ME at the time!) and would use the text-to-speech feature to make it say crazy, usually profanity-laden, things. In retrospect it was obvious adware / malware but not as bad as some of the other junk that would end up on your PC back in those days. The litany…

53419970 - still remember my ICQ #!

AIM statuses were the method of ephermeral self expression back then. Installing bootleg versions of VBB, UBB, and feeling like an absolute boss when people signed up. Warez forums, EFnet, skinning winamp, downloading 50 rar files and waiting in anticipation for that file.

Good times.

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