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Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

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Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#101
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Directly via bailouts and indirectly via inflation, COVID was the biggest wealth transfer to the rich in history.

How does inflation help the rich? Doesn't that devalue their net worth?

It helps people who are in debt (there's the student loan reduction Biden's been asking for). In theory, it's a wash for assets like stocks and real estate. It hurts bondholders, so especially retirees.

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#104

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>Fund people, not companies it depended. large corporation like Apple don't need the money but mom and pop shop that is forced to close during the peak should receive money. the sad thing is corporation that clearly can make it thur covid is receiving the largest amount like https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

>mom and pop shop that is forced to close during the peak should receive money. No, they shouldn't. Don't give any money to any corporations, give all the money exclusively to people. If Mom and Pop run a business, they can get cash as humans to float their business, just like any human could. They could temporarily lay off all their staff (which is OK, because their staff are humans, and are also getting cash) There…

Right so then after cash runs out no one has a job and no businesses exist?

Companies are more that just a collection of people.

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#105
post #3

Directly via bailouts and indirectly via inflation, COVID was the biggest wealth transfer to the rich in history.

How does inflation help the rich? Doesn't that devalue their net worth?

Depending what it is invested in. Money printing lifts asset prices up: stocks, houses. That's typically the sort of assets owned by the upper middle class, you don't keep a $1m balance in a savings account, particularly when rates are at zero or negative.

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#106
post #3

Directly via bailouts and indirectly via inflation, COVID was the biggest wealth transfer to the rich in history.

How does inflation help the rich? Doesn't that devalue their net worth?

The rich have assets and large debts secured on them, the poor have wages and small debts. Both assets and large debts are an advantage if inflation arrives.

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Fund people, not companies it depended. large corporation like Apple don't need the money but mom and pop shop that is forced to close during the peak should receive money. the sad thing is corporation that clearly can make it thur covid is receiving the largest amount like https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

Or, instead of funding either corporation, just give mom and pop money. Instead of business bailouts, we should've done regular, recurring stimulus checks that would help business owners cover bills while they're businesses were closed, and help employees cover bills while they're unable to work.

That is exactly what was done here in the Netherlands. Booking.com just decided to exploit and, in my opinion, abuse that system.

Edit: These emergency financial support measures I was referring to are:

- "Temporary emergency scheme for job retention" (NOW)

- "Temporary self-employment income support and loan scheme" (TOZO)

- "Reimbursement Fixed Costs" (TVL)

More info (in English) on gov websites:

- https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/inform...

- https://english.rvo.nl/subsidies-programmes/reimbursement-fi...

Edit 2: Oh wait there is more:

- "Subsidy scheme for events cancelled due to corona measures"

- "TVL Stock Support Closed Retail"

- "R&D subsidy scheme for the mobility sector" (RDM)

- "Temporary Support for Necessary Costs" (TONK)

- "Arrangement for businesses damaged by curfew riots" (RBC)

More info: https://business.gov.nl/corona/overview/the-coronavirus-and-...

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#108

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Not rich here. Wife's company got COVID loans. They were forgiven. Company had to prove money was spent on rent, salaries, benefits. Company didn't make money on it. Employees were able to keep their jobs. No bonuses involved there.

Yes, and what did those employees who would have otherwise been unemployed spend their money on? Likely rent was the #1 item, thus transferring wealth from tax dollars to asset holders.

Are we saying a rent payment is a “transfer of wealth”? I’m not invested in real estate, but I imagine many people in real estate were just as impacted. Don’t you likely need to pay towards a mortgage and put some aside for capital and day to day maintenance?

Your comment is written as if a rent payment is a transfer from one person to directly to someone else’s savings account. I’m not convinced this is true.

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#109
post #3

Directly via bailouts and indirectly via inflation, COVID was the biggest wealth transfer to the rich in history.

How does inflation help the rich? Doesn't that devalue their net worth?

New money does not reach all people at the same time. Those who get it first benefit more. This is known as the Cantillon Effect. https://fee.org/articles/the-cantillon-effect-because-of-inf...

Re: Booking.com gives €28m in bonuses to three top execs; Took €65m in State aid

#110
post #3

Directly via bailouts and indirectly via inflation, COVID was the biggest wealth transfer to the rich in history.

How does inflation help the rich? Doesn't that devalue their net worth?

It depends on where the new money is injected into the economy to start with. The _flow_ of newly created money tends to benefit the rich, as the initial injection of new cash is pumped into their assets / companies. That money becomes old and trickles through the economy devaluing the currency after the rich have already spent/used/invested/gained from it.
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