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I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by jagger27 »

phaemon wrote: post #82
jagger27 wrote: post #70

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Alright it's clear you're only here to rile people up. Not sure why you think that's appropriate here.

It's appropriate because it will improve your thinking to consider that I might just be right. Edit: I happened to see your response since deleted. Don't worry, I'm not offended. I will say that HN at its best invites intellectual exploration. Take all your comments in this thread and look at them. What thoughts did you provoke? What did you add?

I'm sorry, do you think you're being "intellectually explorative" with unsubstantiated statements like "atheism is for the mediocre mind"?.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by airhead969 »

nightowl_games wrote: post #25

Andreas is the best part about this project. He's just _nice_. He's a good person. It makes me want to contribute and work with him because I feel like I'll learn from him. Too many elite programmers are total jerks!

OMG. That reminds me of the Xen dude, of a potential hire at a startup who demanded "make it a big number" salary, and countless people who know some about one domain assuming their ex-food doesn't emanate odor.

Also, there's the sociological fallacy of assuming the biggest jerk must be the most talented, when it may well be a façade to impress people. There are some talented jerks, but all the talent in the world doesn't matter if no one will work with you.

PS: Shout-out to Steve Kablink for being awesome.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by OJFord »

krapp wrote: post #83
tachyonbeam wrote: post #69

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It's not just Opera though. Microsoft Edge is using also Webkit. I'm legit worried that if Mozilla ever tanks, we could have a complete WebKit browser monoculture.

>I'm legit worried that if Mozilla ever tanks, we could have a complete WebKit browser monoculture. Does that really matter much, if it's open source? A lot of software converges on one or a few standard libraries or applications.

It'd be quite a huge and significant step in the web becoming a single stack or implementation, rather than a set of open standards with various interoperable implementations.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by elisee »

devit wrote: post #98

I'm surprised that either anyone actually uses such an OS (beyond toying with it), or that there are enough people willing to pay without using the OS. What's the explanation for this?

Andreas has been making videos (https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling/videos) sharing his journey: technical ones working on some part of the system, as well as more personal ones talking about his philosophy, struggles and moments of joy.

I'm just one of many but I'm guessing his sincerity combined with his technical abilities make it all very compelling to watch and contribute with money or code, even though the system isn't at a point where you would want to use it.

Basically: it's a fun, open, ambitious project whose story is being told mainly through videos, with a kind and interesting person behind it.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by DC-3 »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #73
DC-3 wrote: post #46

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Unless anyone can name a counter example it's probably the most advanced open source browser engine except for the WebKit family, the Gecko family, and NetSurf. Never mind the whole OS - that alone is worthy of Andreas being able to work full time on the project!

Don't know about SerenityOS' but Dillo (predating even NetSurf) is pretty nice minimal browser with independent layout engine and there's Abaco (for Plan 9) which supports most of HTML4. That said from your list you miss KHTML (WebKit's parent; have diverged significantly since), Trident, EdgeHTML, Presto, and of course, Servo. All without doubt advanced engines. It's disappointing that both Microsoft and Opera didn'…

I daresay Serenity might have the edge on Abaco and perhaps even Dillo. Servo I totally forgot. I didn't realise KHTML was still a thing.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

roywashere wrote: post #60
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #52

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Even if you somehow manage to fully implement all of JS with decent performance, you will finally hit the wall with video DRM - your users will never be able to watch Netflix, for example.

Widevine is the first DRM to be really open to be ported. They suck the least of all DRM systems. This is the DRM used in the Chrome browser and Firefox. I think it would be possible (not easy, or logical, but possible) that Serenity Browser gets Widevine at some point.

I don't think so. See "I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me" [0] and the related HN discussion [1].

[0] https://blog.samuelmaddock.com/posts/google-widevine-blocked...

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25849800

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by EvilEy3 »

typon wrote: post #51
krapp wrote: post #45

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But I've been told by Hacker News multiple times that developing an independent browser is impossible without the means of a multi-million dollar corporation.

Every time I hear V8 mentioned, people talk about it like it's some sort of sacred tablet given to us mortals by Lord Google. It's good, but its just another interpreter/compiler.

Just because you don't like cult around it, doesn't mean you have downplay V8. No, it's not just another interpreter/compiler. V8 is an incredible feat of engineering.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Post by bombcar »

jagger27 wrote: post #39
NikolaNovak wrote: post #19

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I'm a relatively vocal atheist, but Serenity Prayer is a pretty useful/accepted creed to live by if you can get over the very first word, so I can't say it bothers me much; and while I realize there's one other OS that's much more explicitly religion-oriented, I'm not sure it's quite a significant pattern yet... "(God), give me grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, Courage to change the thi…

This is the version I'm familiar with: God, grant me the Serenity To accept the things I cannot change... Courage to change the things I can, And Wisdom to know the difference.

It's basically "should I use sudo or not" as a prayer.
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